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:The only problem I see with that is that it would leave [[forex teachers]] as a redirect to here, which is a bit extravagant. --[[User:GraemeL|GraemeL]] [[User_talk:GraemeL|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

::The alternative is to list forex teachers on AfD and wait a week for it to be deleted.  Redirects are cheap and I don't think this one would be too confusing.  [[User:Eluchil404|Eluchil404]] 11:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


== Lets be realistic ==

I am not sure who small bones is, but I believe with all his posts that there are other intentions here...  I have met James and he is certainly a great individual.  I am sure as well that if you look up Bills Gates or a large company CEO you would find thousands of pages of notes, much with little or no substance.   Give the guy a chance, and most of all please get the facts straight.[[User:Ravestar|Ravestar]] 13:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Let's not get carried away folks - certainly if he has business acomplishments they should be put in - but business club breakfast awards??!  Also the documented problems with his business must also be included.  Wikipedia is not a place for self-promotion and self-advertisements.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 11:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
::ditto for the $10,000 (total) mud volleyball tournament and the toys-for-tots contribution.[[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]]

Quoting individuals who have a beef with him or his company are facts?  If this is going to be put in then James should be newspapers and using only good or bad ones is unfair and will lead to opinion based wikis.  The article should be deleted completely.able to respond with quotes of his own, which then makes it self promoting and a discussion forum, not a fact based page.  And the fraud category is a personal opinion, again not fact.

:Correction - the article quotes multiple reliable sources (Fox TV in Denver, MarketWatch, the Houston Press).  The article is factual in that it is fact that these sources published the quoted statements.  The reader can judge for himself whether he believes the sources.  This level of reliability is required by Wikipedia rules.  Please note that most of the accomplishments section does not meet these standards for reliability!  (even the mud volleyball stuff).  I don't know about the rule for applying categories, but I'd imagine that applying any categorization involves some interpretation of the facts as presented.  Since a bit of interpretation is necessary, I don't think that you can complain about this unless you want to outlaw categorization altogether.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 13:13, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


The information provided in this wiki is walking a fine line between opinion and fact.  Finding opinion based articles from 

:Please do not just keep on blanking out the documented facts that you don't like.  If you want you can list the article for deletion, but this has been done before and failed (see the tags at the top for how to do this).  You might want to look up the policy on biographies of Living Persons.  This might be an interesting test case on how much can be said about a living person when multiple reliable sources say some pretty nasty things about him and his business practices.

:On the other hand, just listing advertising puffery and self-promotion are definitely not allowed.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 10:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

This article is now in accordance with the MOS.

== Deprod ==

I removed the delete in 5 days notice that was put up supposedly because there is not any sources or documentation in the article.  There were lots of sources, now there are more.  I'll try to tidy things up and use the right format.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 12:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

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In their own words, “Operation Homefront is a national nonprofit that provides emergency support and morale to our military troops, the families they leave behind during deployment and wounded warriors when they return home.” That in itself is a marvelous and daunting mission that often creates smiles and always offers relief to the military men and women who come into contact with this special organization.