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:The only problem I see with that is that it would leave [[forex teachers]] as a redirect to here, which is a bit extravagant. --[[User:GraemeL|GraemeL]] [[User_talk:GraemeL|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 19:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

::The alternative is to list forex teachers on AfD and wait a week for it to be deleted.  Redirects are cheap and I don't think this one would be too confusing.  [[User:Eluchil404|Eluchil404]] 11:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

==Let's not get carried away==

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Let's not get carried away folks - certainly if he has business acomplishments they should be put in - but business club breakfast awards??!  Also the documented problems with his business must also be included.  Wikipedia is not a place for self-promotion and self-advertisements.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 11:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
: ditto for the $1000 (total) mud volleyball tournament and the toys-for-tots contribution. [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 11:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

(contracted; show full) note that most of the accomplishments section does not meet these standards for reliability!  (even the mud volleyball stuff).  I don't know about the rule for applying categories, but I'd imagine that applying any categorization involves some interpretation of the facts as presented.  Since a bit of interpretation is necessary, I don't think that you can complain about this unless you want to outlaw categorization altogether.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 13:13, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


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The information provided in this wiki is walking a fine line between opinion and fact. Finding opinion based articles from newspapers and using only good or bad ones is unfair and will lead to opinion based wikis. The article should be deleted completely. {{unsigned|66.193.232.253|16:14, 25 September 2006 (UTC)}}

:Please do not just keep on blanking out the documented facts that you don't like.  If you want you can list the article for deletion, but this has been done before and failed (see the tags at the top for how to do this).  You might want to look up the policy on biographies of Living Persons.  This might be an interesting test case on how much can be said about a living person when multiple reliable sources say some pretty nasty things about him and his business practices.

:On the other hand, just listing advertising puffery and self-promotion are definitely not allowed.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 10:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure who small bones is, but I believe with all his posts that there are other intentions here...  I have met James and he is certainly a great individual.  I am sure as well that if you look up Bills Gates or a large company CEO you would find thousands of pages of notes, much with little or no substance.   Give the guy a chance, and most of all please get the facts straight.[[User:Ravestar|Ravestar]] 13:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)⏎
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I removed the delete in 5 days notice that was put up supposedly because there is not any sources or documentation in the article.  There were lots of sources, now there are more.  I'll try to tidy things up and use the right format.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 12:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

:Who do I speak with when there is a violation of the terms of Wikipedia?  Easy with the fraudster claims and the "reliable" sources you are getting, which in fact are 2 sources.  That makes it a fact?  Replublishing articles written by individuals does not make them fact.  Is Wikiepdia fact based or heresay?  I suggest we agree to delete this entry from Wikipedia.  {{unsigned|66.193.232.253|17:32, 4 October 2006 (UTC)}}

::I'll ask some 3rd parties to explain to you how to properly list an article for deletion.  You should also check Wikipedia policies, for example on WP:reliability and WP:Living Persons.  I believe that this article is very well documented (at least the top half)as it currently stands and conforms to Wikipedia policies.  As others have attempted to edit it (and started it) it was undocumented puffery and advertisement and did violate Wikipedia policies.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 10:10, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

==Wikification==
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There are repeated attempts by smallbones to skew the facts.  I agree that this is outside of wiki guidelines.  I will move for all smallbones comments to be removed [[User:Ravestar|Ravestar]] 13:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)⏎
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One of the problems with this article is that it was far from how a wikipedia article should be formatted. I've made an attempt at improving it per the MOS. This included footnoting the references, and consolidating external links (don't need the same link in two different places). [[User:Akradecki|Akradecki]] 16:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

== Florida corporation data ==
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I don't know if this is useful, but you can pull up information on corporate officers from the State of Florida's sunbiz.org website. Here for instance is Corporate Officer/Registered Agent Names info for people named "James Dicks" (they may not all be the same person):
* http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/corofflis.exe (page 1 of 3)

By the way, it looks like Mr. Dicks' middle initial is "E."  

I have also posted some info on the talk page for the AfD that recently closed. --[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] 02:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

::Also James W. Dicks or Jack W. Dicks, but possibly not James Earl Dicks.  James E. James W. and Jack W. all list the same address on the 25 or so Florida corps bearing their names.  [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 21:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

==Operation Homefront==⏎
James has been actively involved in the new initiative called Operation Homefront.  Below is the information.  I hope these types of activities continue to grow his positive reputation.

There are many amazing organizations across this nation that have mobilized to help the men and women of the military and their families. If you are regular readers of The James Dicks Magazine, you know that our company is dedicated to the nation’s military, and each month we tell you about others who help these special people in our society. I recently found an extraordinary group of people, led by a dedicated woman named Meredith Leyva, who has formed a group called Operation Homefront. 

In their own words, “Operation Homefront is a national nonprofit that provides emergency support and morale to our military troops, the families they leave behind during deployment and wounded warriors when they return home.” That in itself is a marvelous and daunting mission that often creates smiles and always offers relief to the military men and women who come into contact with this special organization.⏎
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I am not sure who small bones is, but I believe with all his posts that there are other intentions here...  I have met James and he is certainly a great individual.  I am sure as well that if you look up Bills Gates or a large company CEO you would find thousands of pages of notes, much with little or no substance.   Give the guy a chance, and most of all please get the facts straight.[[User:Ravestar|Ravestar]] 13:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

There are repeated attempts by smallbones to skew the facts. I agree that this is outside of wiki guidelines. I will move for all smallbones comments to be removed [[User:Ravestar|Ravestar]] 13:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)⏎

Its quite clear that smallbones is up to his old tricks-This person has numerous cease and desists from wikipeda it is ridiculous all because he cant keep his edits from being personal.  This article is one of them, just look at some of the edits prior and you will see, this edit that he wont let anyone else edit talks about things that have no relevance to Mr. Dicks.  Mr. Dicks has no ownership in 4x Made Easy and or Globaltech and never has.  There fore who cares what the market watch guy says about 4x m(contracted; show full)
•	Falsely posting on WP:RFPP that I made a claim of edit warring to get the page blocked 
•	More recently, falsely telling this Committee that Prechter's bio was "protected at Folsom's request." 
QED. --Rgfolsom 18:20, 25 January 2007 (UTC) 

I gave facts to the contrary, which Smallbones ignored or denied in his reply on this page.  {{unsigned|Marine0311|05:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)}}

== Repeated deletion of documented material ==

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There has been repeated deletion of relevant documented material here by a single purpose editor.  There is an issue of biography of a living person (see [[WP:BLP]]) and I will notify the BLP noticeboard.  But there is also an appearant attempt here to censor the well documented facts in this case.  See [[WP:NOT]].  I'll suggest that before deleting well documented facts that any editor acquaint themselves with Wikipedia policy.

[[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] 11:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)