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'''Clan Shaw''' is an ancient [[Scottish clan]], part of the [[Chattan Confederation]] and formerly a sept of [[Clan MacKintosh]].

===Origin of Name===
The origin of the name is uncertain but may derive from the old Gaelic name of 'Sithech'.

===Gaelic Name===

Na Siach, or Mhic Sheaghd. It is interesting to note that the Shaws are never referred to in Gaelic as 'Clan Shaw', but simply as 'the Shaws'.

===Chief===
John Shaw of Tordarroch, 22nd Chief

===Moto===

Fide et Fortitudine - By faith and fortitude.

===Crest===

A dexter cubit arm couped and holding a dagger erect all Proper.


===Plant Badge===

Red Whortleberry([[Lingonberry]]) or Boxwood (By old tradition, also a sprig of fir).

===Septs===

*Adamson 
*Adamsone 
*Ademson 
*Ademsoun 
*Ademsoune 
*Aesone 
*Aison 
*Aissone 
*Aissoun 
*Aissoune 
*Asson 
*Assone 
*Aue 
*Ave 
*Ay 
*Aye 
*Ayesone 
*Ayson 
*Aysone 
*Aysoun 
*Ayssoun 
*Eason 
*Easone 
*Easson 
*Esson 
*Ison 
*Isone 
*MacAy 
*Saythe 
*Scaith 
*Scayth 
*Schau 
*Schaw 
*Schawe 
*Scheoch 
*Scheok 
*Schiach 
*Schioch 
*Schioche 
*Seah 
*Seath 
*Seith 
*Seth 
*Sha 
*Shau 
*Shaw 
*Shawe 
*Shay 
*Sheach 
*Sheath 
*Sheehan 
*Sheoch 
*Shiach 
*Siache 
*Sith 
*Sithach 
*Sithech 
*Sithig 
*Skaith 
*Sythach 
*Sythag 
*Sythock 
*Tordarroch

===History===
Farquhart Shaw, Shaw 'Mor', was leader of a sept of the MacKintosh from the Rothiemurchus area. It is believed that the lands and stronghold of Rothiemurchus were bestowed upon Shaw 'Mor' in [[1396]] for leading the [[Chattan Confederation]] to battle on the North Inch Perth. It is possible, however, that these lands were received as early as [[1226]].

By the time of the [[1715]] [[Jacobite Rising]], the Shaws had lost Rothiemurchus to [[Clan Grant]]. Shortly after, the lands were forfeit by the Crown following the murder of the Chief's stepfather, at the hands of the Chief. Shaw and the Chattan COnfederation tried to have the lands restored, but were unsuccessful.


==External Links==
:[http://www.clanshaw.net/ External link: Clan Shaw]


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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below[[Template:Vfd top|.]] '''This page is no longer live.''' Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. <br >The result of the debate was '''Delete'''. [[User:Rje|Rje]] 00:35, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
===[[The nowra boys]]===
If they introduced skateboarding to New South Wales, you'd think they'd garner more than 12 google hits. No notability proven, nor, indeed, verifiability, given that most of those hits refer to some sort of Boy Scout-esque organization. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] [[User talk:Meelar|(talk)]] 06:36, Feb 7, 2005 (UTC)
*Non-notable, '''delete'''. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 07:01, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)
*Vanity, created by [[User:Nowraboy]].  '''Delete'''.  [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 07:11, Feb 7, 2005 (UTC)
*If they really were involved in Skateboarding in NSW in the late 80s, they should mention something to establish notability - like where they skated and who else was around at the time. '''Delete''' as vanity for one, nn. for another. [[User:Alphax|Alphax]] [[User_talk:Alphax|(t)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alphax|(c)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Alphax|(e)]] 07:45, Feb 7, 2005 (UTC)
*They claimed to have set up skateboarding in the Nowra region in the late 1980's which I doubt is notable. Add to the fact that I holidayed in [[Ulladulla]] near Nowra in the 1970s and skateboarding was well established then, these claims are false.  All we are left with is a small bunch of skateboarders in Nowra in the late 1980s which leads to the conclusion that we should '''Delete''' the article.[[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 09:06, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Skateboarding is a very underground culture, look up the z boys, or gator, very deep hardcore lifestyle, this is one of the first introductions to the internet of a very small but powerful chapter of australias own skateboarding history, there is alot more to life than what you may find on google. However.... these days there are documentaries abounding about these times and people, I am certain skateboarding was established in the seventies in Ulladulla, but a new breed of skater and skateboarding was developing in the late eighties, shame none of the ulladulla locals have provided this online encyclopedia with some of their history, because history it is! and as humerous as this particular submission may seem, it reflects the time and people. Please leave this legacy of history for the sports millions of growing devotees, there is a book in the works and also a short documentary, this page on wikipedia is the first of many sources of information reguarding this chapter of history. One of the flaws of the earths history is the censorship of so much of it, we can not trace accurately back more than a few hundred years,,, lets not let ignorance rule in this millenium. thanks


this page was created firstly as a template so the many people involved can add and create a rich tapestry of the accounts of the time, if the administrators can hold onto this page for a week User talk:RickK| will get his notability, but the intrest expressed since yesterday afternoon is very flattering. skate or die!

::I'm afraid the turning of that article, or Wikipedia in general, into your own advertising medium isn't going to change anybody's Delete vote to a Keep.  In fact, it may cause neutrals to vote Delete.  [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 06:06, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', not notable - 13 Google hits with only 2 relevant, possible vanity. I quite like Nowra, nice place. [[User:Megan1967|Megan1967]] 06:21, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' Nowra back then was a drug infested, bigotted, red neck, right-wing, fundamentalist town with chronic unemployment (is it different now?). It's a wonder anyone even got out alive. Those kids found something that bound them together and turned them into survivors. I remember their rolling thunder. A story that would make a great little film. --[[User:Infradig|Infradig (andrew)]] 11:33, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

*Neutral; if to be kept it should be [[The Nowra boys]] or [[The Nowra Boys]]; is there any documentation of this at all? If so, I might vote to keep. If not, Wikipedia is not the place for primary sources. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 23:15, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' at this stage I cannot find anything substanial or encyclopaedic on this group. [[User:Megan1967|Megan1967]] 00:06, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. I live in Nowra and have never heard of them - hardly notable.
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