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Difference between revisions 55022 and 55023 on enwikiMaybe for nicknames, we should just automatically create a page for the nickname and redirect to the number? e.g., Philip the Fair (redirect to Philip IV of France)...[[:JHK|JHK]] ---- What's wrong with using italics for genera and species? It's a standard I've seen elsewhere. --corvus13 Why is the genera bit here? Surely all the Kings and Queens are Homo sapiens? :D [[:Dave McKee|Dave McKee]] The genera bit is for the archaeologists and palaentologists among us who are likely to be working in this field: those of likely to draw a distinction between [[:Homo sapiens|Homo sapiens]] and [[:Homo neanderthalis|Homo neanderthalis]], for example, because that is their timescale... There's nothing ''wrong'' with using ''italics'', in my view; but for reasons of consistency with our colleagues working in [[:Biology|Biology]], etc, we should try and use something which is in keeping. [[:sjc|sjc]] ---- To all these rules: who says? Wouldn't it be better to model this page after [[:rules to consider|rules to consider]]? --[[:LMS|LMS]] :indeed. Have done. -- Larry: It was just an outline to try and get some sort of consensus established on systems of nomenclature in [[:History|History]]. It is becoming a useful focal point. [[:sjc|sjc]] ---- Hi Everybody -- I have a quick comment about adding articles and what to call them. We are rapidly heading into an area where I foresee a great big train wreck coming on. I know that we all want to get as much written as quickly as possible. However, I think that enthusiasm is often given precedence to careful thought as far as what the entries should be called. This is especially true for biographical articles. For most of the period between late antiquity and the High Middle Ages, the majority of people didn't have last names <i>per se </i>. Moreover, there are WAY LOTS (so to speak) of famous people with the same name -- not surprising, when we think about the fact that most important families used "leading names," names that associated them with their particular family. Most recent case in point is Fr. Jonat's Eadgyth, aka Edith (I'm only using this example b/c it's from today). Frankly, the first Edith I think of wasn't alfred's granddaughter, but Harold Godwinson's (and Hardrada's, I think) wife and (I also think) the daughter of Leofric and Godiva/Godgyfu. Somebody else might have thought of another one. There are a BUNCH of Ediths/Eadgyths/Eadgyfus out there. Can we please try to decide how we are going to separate them BEFORE we just throw them onto the site? PLEASE!! Thanks -- [[:JHK|JHK]] Especially for the minor characters of history (younger sons, wives, dull monarchs) I don't see that there's anything wrong with a name page with multiple entries. --MichaelTinkler :not entirely opposed -- except that I think we also need to do one of those combined name thingies, so that you can get there by typing any of the possible spellings...[[:JHK|JHK]] Also, check out just plain [[:Alexander|Alexander]]. ⏎ [[ja:金 (王朝)]][[de:Jin-Dynastie]][[fi:Jin-dynastia]][[zh:金朝]] [[nl:Jin-dynastie (1115-1234)]] {{History_of_China}} The '''Jin Dynasty''' (金 [[pinyin]]: Jīn [[1115]]-[[1234]]; ''Anchu'' in [[Jurchen language|Jurchen]]), also known as the '''Jurchen dynasty''', was founded by the [[Wanyan]] (完顏 Wányán) [[clan]] of the [[Jurchen]], the ancestors of the [[Manchu]]s who established the [[Qing Dynasty]] some 500 years later. The name is sometimes written as ''Jinn'' to differentiate it from an earlier [[Jin Dynasty (265-420)|Jin Dynasty]] of China whose name is spelled identically in the Roman alphabet. [[Image:China 11b.jpg|left|thumb|200px|China in [[1142]].]] Founded in [[1115]] in northern [[Manchuria]], it successively annihilated in [[1125]] the [[Liao Dynasty]] which had held sway over [[Manchuria]] and the northern frontier of China for several centuries. On [[January 9]], [[1127]] Jin forces sacked [[Kaifeng]], capital of the [[Northern Song Dynasty]], capturing both [[Emperor Qinzong of Song China|Emperor Qinzong]], and his father, [[Emperor Huizong of Song China|Emperor Huizong]], who had abdicated in panic in the face of Jin forces. Following the fall of Kaifeng, Song forces under the leadership of the succeeding [[Southern Song Dynasty]] continued to fight for over a decade with Jin forces, eventually signing a peace treaty in [[1141]], and ceding all of [[North China]] to the Jin in [[1142]] in return for peace. After taking over North China, the Jin Dynasty became increasingly Sinicized, moving its capital from [[Huining Fu]] in northern Manchuria (south of present-day [[Harbin]]) to Zhongdu (now [[Beijing]]). Starting from the early [[13th century]] the Jin Dynasty began to feel the pressure of [[Mongol]]s from the north. In [[1214]] the Jin Dynasty moved its capital to [[Kaifeng]] (the old Song capital) to evade the Mongols; but under the forces of the [[Mongol Empire]] led by [[Ögedei Khan]], third son of [[Genghis Khan]], as well as their allies in the [[Southern Song Dynasty]], the dynasty crumbled in [[1234]]. In [[1616]], [[Manchu]]s under the leadership of [[Nurhaci]] established the Later Jin Dynasty, taking its name from this dynasty. Later Jin was renamed the [[Qing Dynasty]] in [[1636]], and went on to conquer [[China proper]] and become the last dynasty of Imperial China. <br> <table border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"> <caption>'''Sovereigns of Jin Dynasty [[1115]]-[[1234]]'''</caption> <tr valign=top> <th style="background:#efefef;">Temple Name<br>[[Miao Hao]]<br>廟號<br>miàohào</th> <th style="background:#efefef;">Posthumous Name<br>[[Shi Hao]]<br>諡號<br>shìhào</th> <th style="background:#efefef;">Birth Name<br> <br>姓名<br>xìngmíng</th> <th style="background:#efefef;">Years of<br>Reign</th> <th style="background:#efefef;">Era Name<br>[[Nian Hao]]<br>年號<br>niánhào<br>and Years</th> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="5" align="center">''Convention: "Jin" + temple name or posthumous name''</td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>[[Emperor Taizu of Jin|Tàizǔ]]<br>太祖 </td> <td>(1)</td> <td>Wányán Āgǔdǎ<br>完顏阿骨打 </td> <td>[[1115]]-[[1123]]</td> <td> Shōuguó<br>收國<br>[[1115]]-[[1116]]<br> <br> Tiānfǔ<br>天輔<br>[[1117]]-[[1123]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>[[Emperor Taizong of Jin|Tàizōng]]<br>太宗 </td> <td>(1)</td> <td>Wányán Wúqǐmǎi<br>完顏吳乞買<br>''or''<br>Wányán (Shèng ''or'' Chéng)<br>完顏晟</td> <td>[[1123]]-[[1134]]</td> <td>Tiānhuì<br>天會<br>[[1123]]-[[1134]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>[[Emperor Xizong of Jin|Xīzōng]]<br>熙宗 </td> <td>(1)</td> <td>Wányán Hélá<br>完顏合剌<br>''or''<br>Wányán Dǎn<br>完顏亶</td> <td>[[1135]]-[[1149]]</td> <td> Tiānhuì<br>天會<br>[[1135]]-[[1138]]<br> <br> Tiānjuàn<br>天眷<br>[[1138]]-[[1141]]<br> <br> Huángtǒng<br>皇統<br>[[1141]]-[[1149]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>(2)</td> <td>[[Emperor Hailingwang of Jin|Hǎilíngwáng]]<br>海陵王<br> <td>Wányán Liàng<br>完顏亮 </td> <td>[[1149]]-[[1161]]</td> <td> Tiāndé<br>天德<br>[[1149]]-[[1153]]<br> <br> Zhènyuán<br>貞元<br>[[1153]]-[[1156]]<br> <br> Zhènglóng<br>正隆<br>[[1156]]-[[1161]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>[[Emperor Shizong of Jin|Shìzōng]]<br>世宗</td> <td>(1)</td> <td>Wányán Yōng<br>完顏雍</td> <td>[[1161]]-[[1189]]</td> <td>Dàdìng<br>大定<br>[[1161]]-[[1189]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>[[Emperor Zhangzong of Jin|Zhāngzōng]]<br>章宗</td> <td>(1)</td> <td>Wányán Jǐng<br>完顏璟</td> <td>[[1190]]-[[1208]]</td> <td>Míngchāng<br>明昌<br>[[1190]]-[[1196]]<br> <br> Chéng'ān<br>承安<br>[[1196]]-[[1200]]<br> <br> Tàihé<br>泰和[[1200]]-[[1208]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>(2)</td> <td>[[Emperor Weishaowang of Jin|Wèishàowáng]]<br>衛紹王<br>''or''<br>Wèiwáng<br>衛王</td> <td>Wányán Yǒngjì<br>完顏永濟</td> <td>[[1209]]-[[1213]]</td> <td>Dà'ān<br>大安 <br>[[1209]]-[[1212]]<br> <br> Chóngqìng<br>崇慶<br>[[1212]]-[[1213]]<br> <br> Zhìníng<br>至寧<br>[[1213]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>[[Emperor Xuanzong of Jin|Xuānzōng]]<br>宣宗</td> <td>(1)</td> <td>Wányán Xún<br>完顏珣</td> <td>[[1213]]-[[1223]]</td> <td>Zhēnyòu<br>貞祐<br>[[1213]]-[[1217]]<br> <br> Xīngdìng<br>興定<br>[[1217]]-[[1222]]<br> <br> Yuánguāng<br>元光<br>[[1222]]-[[1223]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>[[Emperor Aizong of Jin|Āizōng]]<br>哀宗</td> <td>(1)</td> <td>Wányán Shǒuxù<br>完顏守緒</td> <td>[[1224]]-[[1234]]</td> <td>Zhèngdà<br>正大<br>[[1224]]-[[1232]]<br> <br> Kāixīng<br>開興<br>[[1232]]<br> <br> Tiānxīng<br>天興<br>[[1232]]-[[1234]] </td> </tr> <tr valign=top> <td>(2)<br> <td>[[Emperor Modi of Jin|Mòdì]]<br>末帝</td> <td>Wányán Chénglín<br>完顏承麟</td> <td>[[1234]]</td> <td>(2) </td> </tr> </table> (1) Quite long and thus not used when referring to this sovereign.<br> (2) Did not exist See also: [[Puxian Wannu]] [[Category:History of China]] All content in the above text box is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license Version 4 and was originally sourced from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=55023.
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