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This need a rewrite to make it more encyclopedic.  Also, [[WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary|Wikipedia is not a dictionary]], so those knowledgable of this subject should add appropriate information associated with this term... -- [[User:Scientizzle|Scientizzle]] 16:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

This is a superb defeninition of a ubiquitous cycling *concept*.  The previous poster should read more carefully. --[[User talk:205.248.102.83|Toddman]]

:I read the article carefully and checked out the sources.  I'm not a cyclist, so this was novel information.  [[Wikipedia:Don't be a dick|Thanks for your comment]]. -- [[User:Scientizzle|Scientizzle]] 20:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Scientizzle - what sort of changes are you suggesting?<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Eric.Gunnerson|Eric.Gunnerson]] ([[User talk:Eric.Gunnerson|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eric.Gunnerson|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- [Template:Unsigned] -->

*Here are my suggestions:
#The article is over-formatted, in my opinion.  It's less readible than it should be because there are six headings for what could be said in two succinct paragraphs.  I'll reformat it myself to help conform better to [[WP:STYLE]].
#The tone of the article should remain light due to the subject matter, but needn't be farcical.  The "Treatment and Cures" section fits this bill.  It should go.
#I will remove all 2nd Person references as per [[WP:STYLE#Avoid_the_second_person]].
#Some of the article is obvious cut & paste from [http://www.bicyclesource.com/you/culture/bicycling-glossary.shtml this site], and risks being a [[Wikipedia:Copyrights|copyright violation]].  Say what you mean in your own words.
#Finally, to avoid violating [[WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary]], an effort should be made by those familiar with the concept to provide more than a generalized definition.  Find usage in popular cyclist media, well-publicized examples of Freds, citable [[etymology]] of the term, etc...if it really can't be expanded, this article would be more appropriate on [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Main_Page Wiktionary]. -- [[User:Scientizzle|Scientizzle]] 20:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I should also say that I believe some of the comments about [[Recumbent bicycle|recumbent cyclists]] are clearly [[WP:POV|POV]] and have no place in an encylopedia.  This isn't a forum to make fun of a group of people, light-hearted joshing or otherwise.  I'll take out those comments as well. -- [[User:Scientizzle|Scientizzle]] 21:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Scientizzle - thanks for the rewrite. I'll use it as a template for future expansion. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Eric.Gunnerson|Eric.Gunnerson]] ([[User talk:Eric.Gunnerson|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Eric.Gunnerson|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- [Template:Unsigned] -->

:No problem...the article should certainly be expaned by someone more knowledgeable than I.  Happy editing! -- [[User:Scientizzle|Scientizzle]] 17:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)