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(contracted; show full)films not so much but still subjective to some taste. Video games, on the other hand, are pretty straightforward; the criteria of immersive, innovative gameplay; plenty of secrets, collection, and other replay value; and so on are easy to judge. Okay, maybe deciding on the "absolute greatest" is subjective, but among the greatest is easy to figure out, as good video games have a substantial influence on later games. [[User:The Legend of Miyamoto|The Legend of Miyamoto]] 00:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


i disagree. Games are very subjective. No matter how many tokens and coins i can collect in Mario Bross i still hate it! pacman has no secrets and at the moment has a replay value of a few minutes for me but still is one of the greatest games due to innovation. Tetris too. There is no best games ever list, unless you talk about innovation (ie pong, tetris, wolfestein 3d, pacman, arkanoid) ie games that started a new gametype never seen before. Everything else does not matter (new games have better graphics, more secrets, more moves, more options, more boredom heheeh). Also Songs are very subjective but u can still find objective measures: chords used, harmony, start of new genre etc. Best if this Wikipage is used for Games that Made an Impact either in the gaming community (Pong first since it is the forst computer game!) or social (like Duke nukem and GTA making kids go kill people :P ) and other.⏎
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== Bolo ==

[http://bishop.mc.duke.edu/bolo/ Bolo] might be the most classic Mac game ever, and one of the first games to balance network play, arcade-style intensity, and long-term strategy.  Sadly, it's lost a fan base due to its age, but there still exists a loyal community of Bolo players out there.  I wish it were more recognized for what it is. - [[User:Meese|Meese]] 10:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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:Deus Ex!! - [[User:Jack's Revenge|Jack's Revenge]] 20:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

: This page is seriously biased towards consoles in that majority of the citations are from console publications. --03:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
::We've been over this a million times. Just saying there's a bias is useless; you need to do '''research''' and you do need to cite sources. [[User:Nifboy|Nifboy]] 15:25, 24 August 2006 (UTC)