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''Hello, welcome to my talk page. To leave me a new message please '''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Gabriel_Webber&action=edit&section=new click here]'''.'' PLEASE NOTE: I WILL BE AWAY FROM <tt>21ST DECEMBER</tt> TO <tt>2ND JANUARY</tt>. I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO REPLY TO MESSAGES DURING THAT TIME.
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Happy new year!!
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* ''For December 2004 messages [[User talk:Gabriel Webber/December 2004|click here]].''
* ''For November 2004 messages [[User talk:Gabriel Webber/November 2004|click here]].''
* ''For earlier messages [[User talk:Gabriel Webber/Pre November 2004|click here]].''

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==Sandbox==
J am excuse that have small computers and English grammar. Where find rules? Sank Jour for attention. Rudchenko.

== Sherlock Holmes template ==

I deleted your Sherlock Holmes template a few minutes ago as requested, but I like the idea. Did you know that [[User:Ludraman]] has a long time interest in Holmes. Not only that, but he's also gifted with Wikipedia coding, maybe you should try to team up with him on this one, or just leave a request on his talk page. [[User:MacGyverMagic|[[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|<sup>[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|(talk)]]</sup>]] 19:41, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

== Atlas Award ==

How odd, I haven't seen anything quite like that before. I spend most of my time on there (and elsewhere) fishing funny stuff out and cataloging it.--[[User:Lucky13pjn|Lucky13pjn]] 23:14, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

== Holmes ==

Just saw your note - I'd love to! I especially like the template idea, maybe do it something like the template at the bottom of the [[County Tipperary]] article... Anyway, I'm excited about [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Holmes]] too, so I'm making it there as of now. Join in! [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 09:34, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:The Wikproject is now up and running! [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 09:49, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

::A Wikiproject is just a project Wikipedians make to improve a set of articles. They define goals, what will be done when, what has been done, examples of good articles in that area, spit out ideas for those articles and so on. And yes, adding it to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject]] would be a good idea. [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 09:55, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:::I've started on the template at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Holmes/temp]]. The stuff above the template is some of what needs to be put in. Cheers, [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 10:08, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Template ==

At [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Holmes/temp]] I've done as much as I can on the template: any suggestions? [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 13:03, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:Originally, I did seperate them but I found that it made the template much bigger, and it's big enough as it is! Feel free to mess around with it, though. [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 17:14, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:You probably haven't heard of it because they weren't written by [[Arthur Conan Doyle]], they were written by [[Adrian Conan Doyle|his son]]. I think we should separate Arthur Conan Doyle's works and other works in the template, though. [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 17:59, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Infobox ==

Any comments on the infobox attempt at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Holmes]]? [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 18:54, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Re: The sandbox ==
It is an interesting idea, but the moving of a major page or the creation of a new namespace/test area should really be discussed by a wider segment of the community before going ahead (little old me isn't much of an authority ;). The last time someone altered the sandbox without discussion (moving it to "Wikipedia:Test area" on the grounds that a "sandbox" isn't intuitive enough for UK/European users), the alteration was quickly reversed. I know there's already talk going on at the pump, but it doesn't seem all that constructive, and not many users have weighed in. I'm concerned that such a Sandbox: space would create an even greater mess for the janitor types to clean up: As IMSoP mentioned, testing things like redirects and page moves can already be (and is encouraged to be) done at the [[test:Main page|test:Wikipedia]], so perhaps there isn't really a need to alter the status quo, since there's a whole wiki newbies can mess with. Don't let me stand in your way though; it sounds promising, and all I ask is that you offer your ideas to the community for comment beforehand, as even editing a template like <nowiki>{{test}}</nowiki> would be a fairly major thing. Cheers, -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 03:02, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)



== MediaWiki 1.4 ==

I am not one of the developers, but by lurking at the technical mailinglist I read that Brion Vibber plans to roll out MW1.4 within this year. Maybe after the arbitration election is finished? The reason for the current slowdown I have no idea - http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Wikipedia_Status don't say much except that we are low on Apache work power - but that was the case for the last days already, but earlier it seemed like the wikipedia died. [[User:Ahoerstemeier|andy]] 20:12, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== You know you're a Sherlockonian when... ==

[http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/4040/countdown.html Check out this link...] [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 23:03, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Alleged forgery ==
Gabriel, I have nothing to change or add to what I've already said. If you want to make a complaint, go right ahead. I'm sure the admins will be very impressed that you have wasted so much time on this forgery that was not a forgery. For your information [[User talk:HistoryBuffEr/Archived-Sermons#Large-scale edits and ad hominem comments|I am aware]] of the [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/User talk:HistoryBuffEr/Archived-Sermons|talk page policy]] to which you referred. I have [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/HistoryBuffEr and Jayjg/Evidence#Gazpacho's views|learned its limits]] and I hope that you can too. [[User:Gazpacho|Gazpacho]] 11:14, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:Thanks for watching, but there '''''was no forgery'''''. Move along. Maybe my web browser crashed, maybe I wanted to notify the user before any more articles were vandalized. I don't remember, don't care, and don't wish to discuss it any further. Posting ultimatums as a first resort is a lousy way to engage editors constructively, so please don't do it anymore. [[User:Gazpacho|Gazpacho]] 11:32, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Mary Russell ==

Good point about Mary Russell being in the template, but I don't think it matters a huge ammount either way. I was thinking though, of making one ACD template (Stories, places, characters) and one non-ACD template (authors, stories etc.) instead of the one big one. What do you think? [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 11:28, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:Yes I am admin: I get to see the wonderful admin bar on the top of my page;) :
[[Image:Admin bar.png|Yay!]]

== Sandbox ==
Error wasn't intentional.  New to Wiki and asked for help with a disambiguity page and to be quite honest, still don't know how to go about setting it up, even after being directed to the sandbox page. [[User:Revmachine21|Revmachine21]] 11:34, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Gabriel, I've been looking at the conversation you're having with [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]]. Realize that you can't force anyone to make sense, or post replies only on your talk page. If you don't like someone's style of discussion, then stop discussing with them. [[Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot|Stay cool]]. There are more sensible things you can do with your time here than keeping up conversation with people that you think are being foolish or impolite. Unless you and DrZoidberg get into a dispute over an actual article, there's nothing going on here that would warrant a formal complaint or mediation. Zoidberg is a bit of a wildcard, but if he wants to do weird things in the sandbox, let him. Nobody expects the sandbox to make sense. Don't get worked up over this. [[User:JRM|JRM]] 13:16, 2004 Dec 12 (UTC)

:In the interest of effective communication, I was using wording most likely to appeal to ''him'', not you. It did not reflect my personal opinion of your requests. After all, it would be quite unlikely for ''me'' to have any success in convincing him if I basically said "Gabriel is right, so just do as he says", no matter how much that may apply. Diplomacy is a subtle art; one that needs a delicate handling of the truth. :-) [[User:JRM|JRM]] 13:39, 2004 Dec 12 (UTC)

::Hi.  I'm replying on your talkpage!!  Now where was I?  Ah, yes...  Isn't the sandbox ''supposed'' to be the place where nonsense goes?  If you're annoyed by the contents of the sandbox, then don't read it. [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 14:20, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Re: Coloured text ==

<font color="blue">To add coloured text, just use standard HTML markup.  However, you should make sure to only [[Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Use colour sparingly|use colour sparingly]] in regular articles.  And yes, colours are allowed in signatures, by going into your preferences, under "user data", and adding the HTML markup for coloured text to your "nickname for signatures" there.  Hope that helps.</font> [[User:Denelson83|Denelson83]] 23:52, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)



== Re: Hangman in the sandbox ==

So that means you can't stop me from putting the game back every time you delete it!
* 1) There is more than one person playing.  There is only one person trying to delete it (ie. you).  Please be nice to us, and don't delete our game just because you don't like it.
* 2) If we can do what we want in the sandbox, then I can put the game back if I want every time you delete it. [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 17:23, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
** One question...  When you deleted my hangman game you mentioned in your edit summary: ''I'LL DO THIS FOR LONGER THAN YOU!!!''  Are you seriously trying to make the sandbox a better place, or are you just trying to pick a fight with me?  Personally, I don't like fights. [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 17:32, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*** You are free to edit anything, just like we are.  If you want to add something else to the sandbox, feel free to do so.  I'm just asking that you be courteous and don't delete a work in progress.
**** Um, OK, but I fail to see the lesson here. Come to think of it, that kind of kills the whole point of a lesson, now, doesn't it? :-) [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 17:42, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
***** We're on [[Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress|Vandalism in progress]] for using the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]?  There's a new one... [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 18:04, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
****** I did write there!!  Please push the '''Refresh''' button on your browser ('''Reload''' for [[Netscape]] users) or press F5. [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 18:20, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
******* Quote by [[User:Gabriel Webber|Gabriel Webber]]: "I can't do anything ''forcibly'' over the Internet."  I have put my side of the story there.  I have a funny feeling that no matter what I do, you won't be satisfied.  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 18:26, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
******** May I also refer you to a comment by [[User:JRM]]: "Realize that you can't force anyone to make sense, or post replies only on your talk page. If you don't like someone's style of discussion, then stop discussing with them." [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 18:33, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Sorry DrZoidberg, I agree with Gabriel.  As a '''very''' new user it is '''very''' annoying getting edit conflicts when just trying a few edits.  Please take your game elsewhere. --[[User:192.156.101.3|192.156.101.3]] 17:51, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Re: Hangman ==

Actually, the Hangman game is getting more people to edit than normally would.  Also, when you wipe out the sandbox every 3 minutes, people's edits are disappearing, and that is ''definitely'' something that will discourage editing.  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 17:52, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
# The edit conflicts are not caused by my game, they're caused by ''you'' constantly clearing the sandbox
# As for take it or leave it, I'll choose option #2.
* OK.  But you can't complain if I decide to put the game back sometime in the future.  Remember what you said?  "it's the sandbox, where people can do what they like".  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 18:03, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
** Actually, ''you'' complained to ''me'' about the game.  Look at your first message to me today.  But if I misunderstood you then I'll make you a deal.  I can do whatever I want in the sandbox, and so can you.  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 18:09, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*** Deal.  Although constantly deleting the game and making me put it back just makes the game last a lot longer.  If you leave the game there and let it finish, it ends a lot faster.  Just a suggestion though :-)  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 18:15, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**** I do have a reason.  If it's on a different page, no one will bother to go there, and therefore less (if any) players.  If people see it in the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]], they will jump right in and play.  More fun for everyone!!  But that's just my opinion.  We're all entitled to one.  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 18:20, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm just going to mention it once here on your [[User_talk:Gabriel_Webber|talk page]], 'cause it's directed mostly at you [[User:Gabriel_Webber|Gabriel]], but I'm sure [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] will read it also should he come here to respond to something else.  I just want to point out that by blanking the [[WP:SB|Sandbox]] you keep violating the [[WP:3RR|Three revert rule]] as stated in the [[WP:RULES#Behavior_guidelines|Wikipedia policy (Behavior Guidelines)]].  Now I realize that maybe you feel that it was justified and such, or doesn't apply to the sandbox, or it was something you needed to do to get rid of "vandalisim", but specifically in the [[WP:3RR|Three revert rule]] where it describes some [[WP:3RR#Reverting_and_vandalism|exception]] to the rule, it says, "''This exception does not apply to reversions of well-established users just because you consider their edits to be "vandalism."''"  I'm not condoning [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]]'s actions, I've already suggested in the [[Wikipedia_talk:Vandalism_in_progress#Sandbox_discussion_from_project_page|Vandalisim in progress talk page]] that [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] create a subpage for his Hangman game.  The only reason I'm posting this is because I don't want you to get in trouble for violating the [[WP:3RR|Three revert rule]] when you're only causing a minor irritation to [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] and others (myself ''not'' included as I am no longer playing the game in that location, however, should it move to a more appropriate place, I may consider joining in again.)  I do not think it is unreasonable to have a link in the Sandbox (perhaps in the template text of the 'static header' for example) to a [[WP:SB/Hangman|Hangman]] subpage.  Then again, I'm just new here.--[[User:Kyrin|[[User:Kyrin|Kyrin]]\<sup>[[User_talk:Kyrin|talk]]</sup>]] 18:48, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)

* But it's not on the main sandbox page!  Nobody's playing!  ''(runs off and cries)''  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 15:28, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
** But when the game is on the main sandbox page everyone plays!  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 15:30, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*** If the game stays on the main sandbox page, people will see the game and be more willing to join in.  People won't bother to go to a different page to play!  So in conclusion, yes, I ''can'' blame you :-P  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 15:36, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**** I agree.  It is hard playing Hangman with edit conflicts when you're reverting the page every 20 seconds.  But the main point here is that if someone ''sees'' the game in action, they will jump in and play.  If they just see a link to it, they won't be as interested.  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 15:40, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
***** '''''IDEA!'''''  Why don't you play Hangman?  It's fun!  Even more fun than an asylum!! [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 15:46, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
****** Oh, and just to clarify, "THAT'S IT!  BACK TO WINNIPEG!" is a quote from [[The Simpsons]].  Although I have been to [[Winnipeg, Manitoba]], and it is a nice place, even without an asylum.  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 15:48, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
******* Well I do have an objection to your objection to me playing it in the sandbox!! [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 15:52, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
******* If your goals are to build an encyclopedia, you'd have better things to do than delete every single edit I make.  '''''[[Q.E.D]]!!!!!!!!!!''''' [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 15:56, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
******** [[Monopoly]] in the sandbox?  That's a great idea!!  Why didn't I think of that before?  Thanks!  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 16:01, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
********* I don't think my comments are silly!  "Silly" is a very vague word anyway.  What one person considers silly another may not.  [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]] 17:42, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== <nowiki>{{test}}</nowiki> ==

I usually do, but the history page works especially when I don't have any additional comments. [[Wikipedia:Dealing with vandalism]] don't recommend either option. And your "welcome" is a bit tardy but thanks :) [[User:68.81.231.127|68.81.231.127]] 09:21, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:True. I always do during actual discussions, or when adding a comment; templates feel more like editing an article. [[User:68.81.231.127|68.81.231.127]] 09:30, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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You've got your answer at [[Wikipedia:Reference desk]], [[User:Paranoid|BTW]].

==Mediation==

Hi, I'm currently [[Wikipedia:Mediation Committee#Inactive|inactive]] on the Mediation Committee, but you can request another mediator helps at [[Wikipedia:Requests for mediation]] if you are still having problems with [[User:DrZoidberg|DrZoidberg]]. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 21:36, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)

== <nowiki>{{sandbox}}</nowiki> ==

Why did you remove the <tt>games links</tt> from the sandbox header? If you see [[User talk:Gabriel Webber|''my'' talkpage]] and [[User talk:DrZoidberg|''DrZoidberg's'' talkpage, you'll see it is essential. Also, please reply on '''''my''''' talkpage to this message.--[[User:Gabriel Webber|[[User:Gabriel Webber|Gabriel]] [[User talk:Gabriel Webber|(internal ID number: <tt>118170</tt>)]]]] 09:27, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC) [pasted from my talk page --[[User:Korath|Korath]][[User talk:Korath|<sup>&#20250;&#35441;</sup>]]]
:Because discussion in [[Template talk:Sandbox]], which is the proper place to discuss changes, shows a clear consensus that the message ''must'' be clear and concise.  This is one of the first pages a new wikipedian sees (and should be the first he edits); it should thus concentrate on drawing users into Wikipedia proper.
:I've only glanced at the messages on your and DrZoidberg's talk pages; your insistence on splitting message and response between separate pages makes the conversation wholly illegible to anyone else.  The [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]] is the proper tool for monitoring a conversation.  Further discussion should go to [[Template talk:Sandbox]], but if you insist on replies being placed on your talk page, either post yours here as well, or don't expect anyone else to attempt to read them. --[[User:Korath|Korath]][[User talk:Korath|<sup>&#20250;&#35441;</sup>]] 22:01, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Change in infobox ==

I've changed the infobox so the story name is automated. Now all you need to add is {{holmes infobox|date of release|book (eg His Last Bow)|client|set in (date)|villain}} [[User:Ludraman|J<small>OHN</small> C<small>OLLISON</small>]] [ [[User talk:Ludraman|L]][[WP:FPC|u]][[WP:IWNB|d]][[Wikipedia:Community Portal|r]][[WP:COTW|a]][[WP:PNA|m]][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Ludraman&action=edit&section=new an]] 19:28, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

== Automatic talk topic template ==

I think you should make a template out of your '''To leave me a new message please click here''' code and list it on [[Wikipedia:Template_messages/User_talk_namespace]].  If I get a chance before you're back, I might try.  --[[User:Theodore Kloba|Theodore Kloba]] 22:45, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
:Done.  It's now at <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Usercomment|usercomment]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>.  Have fun!

== Dibs! ==

Am I, like, the first? I've been thinking about this whole Gmail thing and thinking I ought to give it a try! - [[User:Nunh-huh|Nunh-huh]] 01:25, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:On what exactly are you calling '''dibs'''? --[[User:Theodore Kloba|Theodore Kloba]] 19:44, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Sorry...:(

== Recent Changes patrol ==

It's turned off by default. And check the "raw signature" box in your preferences so you'll stop creating broken sigs. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 18:32, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:I'm not sure exactly why RC patrol is off by default. I know that [[User:Brion VIBBER|Brion VIBBER]] has said he thinks it's silly, but I don't know if there's any technical problems with it. I'd guess that the developers want to hammer out some of the many other problems they have before turning on something optional that may have its own. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 17:11, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)