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== Seeking topic ban from American politics, post-1932, the easy way ==

Almost everything I try to do in this area goes sour quickly, leads to more confusion and controversy. I waste people's time, they waste mine. It's not intentional, but it is disruptive and it does happen. I've tried to quit, but it's hard, I lack self-control and can't resist the temptations of correctable half-truths. I tried asking an admin for intervention (in a somewhat creepy way, no less), but then read a rule saying regular admins don't have that authority, only you can stop me from wasting more people's time without wasting even more people's time through a thorough public hearing. I waive that right, and any others that may hinder your verdict. I would ask for a minimum sentence of four months, but will abide by whatever you think fits the above freely-confessed crimes. Thank you for considering this plea, and once again for creating Wikipedia. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] ([[User talk:InedibleHulk|talk]]) 08:32, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Dear IndedibleHulk,

I would consider it a great kindness and it would reflect very well on you if you choose not to edit articles in the area of American policies, post-1932.  Out of your respect for the process - and for yourself and your own happiness - I hope that you will use this voluntary ban wisely.  My suggestions would be to pick some random area of knowledge that you've always had a bit of curiosity about, but have no strong views on, and read a few books about it.  Or - and I haven't checked your edit history so I have no idea what the problem has been - perhaps you could find a prominent and well-written book that takes an opposite view of your own, and read it with a sympathetic mind, to try to understand things as those who disagree with you understand them.  (Have no fear, you won't brainwash yourself or anything but you are likely to come out the other end with a more nuanced and thoughtful position!)--[[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Wales#top|talk]]) 14:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
:Read ''a book?'' By one of ''those'' people?!? Harsh...but fair. I'll give it my best shot! But I'm telling you, part of me is addicted to chaos, a straitjacket and muzzle might still be in order, should my reading comprehension fail. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] ([[User talk:InedibleHulk|talk]]) 22:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I think you should both come to my [[Morris dance]] class. Bring your own hobnails. -[[User:Roxy the dog|'''Roxy''' <small>the inedible dog </small>.]] [[User talk:Roxy the dog|'''wooF''']] 14:56, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
:That doesn't seem like a winter activity, meybe later, woof anyway! [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] ([[User talk:InedibleHulk|talk]]) 22:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Maybe you were cyber bullied and didn't have the armor to cope with it. Sounds like you just made honest mistakes. That's a lot better than editors who deliberately mislead. [[User:Bob K31416|Bob K31416]] ([[User talk:Bob K31416|talk]]) 15:18, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
:Not even close. The speculation and the assumption, anyway. That last fact's dead on. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] ([[User talk:InedibleHulk|talk]]) 22:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

If I may jump in here, Something incredibly right up your alley Mr. Hulk. [[Official State of Colorado, U.S.A. Article Project.]][[User:Paptilian|<span style="color:Grey;font: bold 1em Georgia;text-shadow:#ACF 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">Paptilian</span>]] [[User talk:Paptilian|<span style="color:Grey;font: bold 1em Georgia;text-shadow:#ACF 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">(talk)</span>]] 16:45, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

==Concern==
There are a number of pictures in various articles and on commons that contain sacred temple robes worn by members of [[The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]]. The problem with this is that the person behind the photos trespassed to get them. The photographer, known as NewNameNoah/Mike Norton, as previously been arrested for trespassing. And now that every temple knows him, and will call the police if he steps foot on the property, Mike Norton has begun forging temple recommends, and handing them out to people, so they too can enter illegally. My biggest concern with this is, as mentioned above, they often show our sacred temple garments and our sacred rituals. These pictures are offensive and disregard the sacredness of the temple. Keep in mind, we as members of the LDS Church, don't like discussing what happens inside these sacred edifices, we don't like to share what our robes look like, and we especially do not like when people bully us by publishing what we hold dear in our hearts. We as citizens of the world, should be respectful to all religions and faiths. I have gone through so many options, and honestly I am running out of options. I have put my problem on Teahouse, talked with several wikipedians, and even debated the deletion of these images. Is there anything else I can/should do? Is there anyway that these images can be removed on the grounds of common respect? Your help will be greatly appreciated!
[[User:Matthew.weller|Matthew.weller]] ([[User talk:Matthew.weller|talk]]) 16:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Matthew.weller}}, Wikipedia is [[WP:CENSOR|not censored]]. We have plenty of photos that some people find offensive. Muslims frequently rankle that we have depictions of the prophet Muhammed, but we don't delete the photos because they are a useful visual aid. We have plenty of photographs on Wikipedia that were taken illegally, but that are invaluable. Take for example the [[Sonderkommando photographs]]. Different subject for sure, but illegal, and yet some of the most important photographs ever taken. Many find the photos distasteful, but they are illustrative. Wikipedia does not remove photographs for any of the concerns you have raised, I'm afraid. We are an archive of knowledge, and such photos represent previously unknown knowledge, and we are appreciative of our volunteers who provide that knowledge. [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''CaptainEek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 20:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

== Do you remember back when you first had this idea? ==

I have this strange compulsion that [[Official State of Colorado, U.S.A. Article Project.]] means something important. Its still in my head all jumbled up, however, Out of Chaos, Order has been accomplished, to a degree that should you call your attention to the link you might choose to respond. You are being advised that I have dropped your name into the call for assembly and before it goes further (with your referenced) I felt the need for proper introduction. I am User:Paptilian, browser of anything Wiki Foundation, Commons, Data, not sure what all, and as such have requested the attention of the Foundation, my mind tells me this is That Big. For it reaches into the Governor's Office, not just Colorado, but the Secretary of State's office, and that all the way to the President's staff. Ok, admitted, I dream big and in color. But it's true. I leave you with the invitation to attend Roll Call. Yours, very respectfully, User:Paptilian. ps May I have an official user name (I forget what its called at this moment as a lot on my mind in happening. registered name. [[User:Paptilian|<span style="color:Grey;font: bold 1em Georgia;text-shadow:#ACF 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">Paptilian</span>]] [[User talk:Paptilian|<span style="color:Grey;font: bold 1em Georgia;text-shadow:#ACF 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em;">(talk)</span>]] 16:38, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|Paptilian}}, ....what in the what? Could you explain that in clear English? And also explain what your various user subpages are about? You do know that the state of [[Colorado]] already exists, yes? [[User:CaptainEek|<span style="color:#6a1f7f">'''CaptainEek'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:CaptainEek|<span style="font-size:82%"><span style="color:#a479e5">''Edits Ho Cap'n!''</span></span>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/CaptainEek|⚓]] 20:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

== Some bubble tea for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Take this bubble tea for founding Wikipedia. I hope you like it! [[User:CodingCyclone|𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎]] [[User talk:CodingCyclone|ᴛᴀʟᴋ]] 07:15, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
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==Thank you==
Thank you for founding Wikipedia and giving so many people the ability to learn, discover and enjoy. And also thank you for your trust in letting random people edit your userpage, I know I don't have that much trust! [[User:REDMAN 2019|<span style="color:#daa520">REDMAN 2019</span>]] ([[User talk:REDMAN 2019|<span style="color:#c0c0c0">talk</span>]]) 18:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
:That's a nice thought but Jimbo has a large following that protects his user page. [[User:Bob K31416|Bob K31416]] ([[User talk:Bob K31416|talk]]) 23:30, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
::As I found out! :-) [[User:REDMAN 2019|<span style="color:#daa520">REDMAN 2019</span>]] ([[User talk:REDMAN 2019|<span style="color:#c0c0c0">talk</span>]]) 12:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)⏎
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== If Donald Trump's lawyers were arguing against Bradv they would have a field day ==

Good morning, Jimbo.   The rules for the 2020 Arbitration Committee election include the following:

{{talkquote|11. If inappropriate questions, questions in excess of any limit, any content prohibited by above and/or other disputed content is added to the questions to candidates page it may be removed by Election Commissioners and nobody else, with the exception of the author of said material.}}

A question was asked of Bradv on 26 November.   "Future Perfect at Sunrise" removed it.   It was restored on 29 November and Bradv removed it in under a minute without giving a reason.   I won't restore it again as this would only give him the opportunity to wikalawyer.   If I had restored it I would have added the following:

{{talkquote|The incompetence continues.   In a discussion about a deleted article an editor makes an observation on his/her talk page and you delete it using Twinkle}}
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wikieditor23232&diff=prev&oldid=991553160].

Never in the history of this website has there been such a flagrant breach of electoral law.   Bradv's action preventing the Community from being fully informed must result in disqualification.   Never has disqualification or withdrawal involved someone who had any prospect of election.   Bradv is a serving Arbitrator and TonyBallioni was the front runner.   The Electoral Commissioners say they are not going to tell those who have voted (which is practically everyone) about the withdrawal, so they are precluded from voting for the candidate of their choice.

In 2017 you confirmed your right to formally appoint the incoming Arbitrators (ratifying the election result) before they can take office.   You can at any time disband the Committee and call for fresh elections.   I urge you to void this election and require a fresh one.   Not one woman has put herself forward, the first time this has happened in the seventeen contests to date.   If you don't do this and the votes Bradv has amassed by trickery push others out you should decline his reappointment.   If you do rerun the election he should not be permitted to stand.   January polls have occurred in the past and the existing retiring members (apart from Bradv) could be co-opted on for an additional month.

He is standing on the absurd platform that the Foundation has no power to implement a uniform Code of Conduct on all its websites.   He is known to spend his days with his eyes glued to his monitor looking for opportunities to abuse his position.   For example, an editor who previously didn't have a talk page created one.   Within a minute Bradv, who knows perfectly well that any editor can post on her talk page unless specifically forbidden, had deleted it G5 ''page created by a blocked or banned user in defiance of his/her ban.'' [[Special:Contributions/89.240.79.26|89.240.79.26]] ([[User talk:89.240.79.26|talk]]) 13:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)