The message that he was here before I removed it was really ugly (green and dotted red?!) and adds nothing to the article... why does saying this article is listed on cleanup help the article? All articles are liable for improvement, whether they are on cleanup or not. Cleanup is a place is a place to go for people looking for articles to improve, not to tag bad articles. [[User:Pcb21|Pete/Pcb21]] [[User_talk:Pcb21|(talk)]] 20:18, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
:<strike>If you find it so useful to blank the cleanup page, can't you also find ''all'' the articles currently having the <cleanup> tag printout and remove the msg? You've been bold, but I'm tempted to revert. </strike>[[User:Sverdrup|— Sverdrup]] 20:44, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
::Sorry I didn't realise blank messages were displayed like that. I've removed the message from all pages in the article namespace that include the message, according to WhatLinksHere. [[User:Pcb21|Pete/Pcb21]] [[User_talk:Pcb21|(talk)]] 21:09, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
::::I'm rash at times. You've been bold, and that's good. You are probably right that WP:cleanup works much better than msg:cleanup. [[User:Sverdrup|— Sverdrup]] 21:10, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I don't really agree to your reasoning. Yes, most articles are open to improvement, but I think the ugly red/green thing provides extra incentive for people to improve the article so they can get rid of it. — [[User:Timwi|Timwi]] 17:32, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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