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'''To Do:''' 
*Sort the "silent spells" at the end of the article into the rest of the ''Canonical Spells''. -- Done ([[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 11:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC))
*Expand all "paragraph" spell entries into the new template seen in [[Canonical Spells in the world of Harry Potter# Accio (The Summoning Charm)|Accio]]. -- Done ([[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 11:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC))
**The first word in the template should be spelled ''Pron'''u'''nciation'', not ''Pronounciation''. -- [[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 15:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
**I've expanded several spell entries into the standard template; I've also added or edited some etymological information based on definitions in [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/ the Perseus Project's] [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/resolveform?lang=la Classical language word search] web page. I did '''not''' change the etymological discussion of the ''Ennervate'' spell, as the etymological situation seems a bit complex and I'd like to have some other user input before making a change. -- [[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 15:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC) -- Done ([[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 11:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC))
**Should we expand the template to include a specific entry for etymology? I have, or can find, etymologies for all the Latinate incantations. -- [[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 12:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC) -- Done ([[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 11:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC))

'''ATTN: Typer 525 -''' Re your change in the entry for '''Avis''', the spell Hermione uses is nowhere stated to be "Avis", and we don't actually see her casting the spell; that's why I decided to class that use as conjectural and put it in "Notes" rather than in "Seen/Mentioned". Comments? -- [[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 11:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

== Pronunciation guide ==

The pronunciations should be in [[IPA]] characters.

:This is certainly a good way to standardize pronunciation; however, it will be useless for readers not familiar with the notation. For these readers, a simplified guide based on typical English pronunciation is probably the easiest approach; but we should probably add IPA readings for those who are familiar with IPA, or for those who are not fluent in English.

Please don't forget to sign your name to your posts. -- [[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 19:25, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

==Avada Kedavra==

Is there a non-Rowling source for the Aramaic origin of this name? When I googled on 'avada kedavra aramaic', I got nearly 100% Harry Potter returns. Some of them mentioned a connection between the Aramaic phrase and 'abracadabra'. But the [[abracadabra]] entry says that ''avada'' means "create", not "destroy". [[http://www.etymonline.com/ |Etymonline]] gives 'Abraxas' as the origin of ''abracadabra'', a possibility also discussed in the Wikipedia entry. Since the Etymonline site lists the documents it uses as sources (at least in general) whereas the Wikipedia article doesn't, I'm inclined to go with that entry -- at least until I find someone who can speak Aramaic. This (or even the idea of ''avada'' meaning "create" rather than "destroy") undermines the relevance of the etymology entry.

-- [[User:MatthewDBA|MatthewDBA]] 18:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

== Incendiah ==

Could the author, or someone else, point out where this spell is ''mentioned'' in the novels? That is what the "seen/mentioned" section is '''for''' - not exposition on the spell it'self.

If no one comes forward in the next day or so, I'll take it back out.

[[User:Beowulf314159|Beowulf314159]] 14:21, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Heck with it - it almost certainly was someone "making up something cool and getting into Wikipedia". Bad description, badly written up. If it's '''actually''' mentioned in the books, by all means put it back in - but ''reference'' it this time! - [[User:Beowulf314159|Beowulf314159]] 14:44, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

== Protean Charm ==

Either take the prounciation OUT again, or leave the dual name in as it fits the naming convention.

I've reverting this a vandalism

[[User:Beowulf314159|Beowulf314159]] 00:40, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry, not sticking to the naming convention was an honest mistake on my part. I've fixed it. --[[Special:Contributions/WhyBeNormal|¿]] [[User:WhyBeNormal|WhyBeNormal]] [[User_talk:WhyBeNormal|?]] 01:20, 19 December 2005 (UTC)