Silsor" on enwiki

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*([[User:Silsor|Silsor]] | [[User talk:Silsor|talk]] | [[Special:contributions/Silsor|contributions]])
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==Statement of the dispute==
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=== Description ===
[[User:Silsor]] recently robbed the [[Wikipedia:WikiMoney accounts]] page of everyone's [[Wikipedia:WikiMoney|WikiMoney]].  


=== Evidence of disputed behavior ===
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:# [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiMoney_accounts&diff=9302263&oldid=9302014 Silsor empties the accounts]
:# [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiMoney_accounts&diff=9303445&oldid=9302470 Silsor beats up and robs an innocent passer-by]

=== Applicable policies ===
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:# [[Wikipedia:Civility]] 
:# [[Wikipedia:Faux pas avoidance]]
:# [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks]] - "''Don't steal WikiMoney from other editors.''"

=== Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute ===
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:# We didn't even have a chance!
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=== Users certifying the basis for this dispute ===
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:#I t-tried to stop-p him, I r-really did, but he... he... protected [[Harry Potter]]... *sobs* [[User:Ugen64|ugen]][[User_talk:Ugen64|<small>64</small>]] 04:32, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:# Does Wikipedia have the [[death penalty]]? -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 04:44, 2005 Jan 12 (UTC)
:# Silsor's placement on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits&oldid=9206421 List of Wikipedians by number of edits] has fallen drastically and he's obviously resorting to desperate measures to get his # of edits up again. [[User:Elf|Soq Puppit]]
:#Endorse wholeheartedly - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 05:51, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

=== Other users who endorse this summary ===
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#My entire wikisavings--gone! Now what will I live on while I endlessly make random edits in other peoples' articles?  [[User:Elf|Elf]] | [[User talk:Elf|Talk]] 05:28, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#See? This is why I keep my wikisavings in an old [[Wikipedia:Sock puppet|sock]] under my user page. --[[User:fvw|fvw]][[User talk:Fvw|<SMALL><FONT COLOR="green">*</FONT></SMALL>]] 00:17, 2005 Jan 13 (UTC)
#Will support when user has 60,000 edits in [[Gaelic language|Gaelic]] using only the letter &ucirc;. [[User:UgenBot|UgenBot]] 21:48, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#| recommend [[impalement]]. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality]]<sup>[[User talk:Neutrality|talk]]</sup> 23:05, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)
#:[[Crushing by elephant]] is (theoretically) funnier. [[User:Elf|Elf]] | [[User talk:Elf|Talk]] 23:51, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#::When reading that I imagined a pink elephant falling from the sky and crushing the condemned, which would've been a funny way to execute somebody, both in theory and in practice. --[[User:Gcbirzan|gcbirzan]] ([[User_talk:Gcbirzan|talk]]) 00:07, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#Endorse wholeheartedly - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 05:51, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
# <s>I've been robbed!!! --[[User:Juntung|JuntungWu]] 02:16, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC) </s> Oh, I have my money back now. Withdrawn.... [[User:Juntung|JuntungWu]] 04:06, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

==Response==
''This is a summary written by the user whose conduct is disputed, or by other users who think that the dispute is unjustified and that the above summary is biased or incomplete.'' 

First of all, I would like to point out the fact that [[User:Luigi30|Luigi30]] wasn't an innocent bystander, he lied about his [[Wikipedia:WikiMoney|WikiMoney]] amount, because [[User:Silsor|silsor]] took &psi; 20 from his already "empty" account. This obviously makes him guilty of [[tax evasion]]. While the above doesn't excuse [[User:Silsor|silsor]], it demonstrate that [[User:Luigi30|Luigi30]] is not as innocent as some people want us to believe.

Secondly, eIf you will  watch the recording closely, you'll notice he never threatened anyone, he just said ''This is a holdup! Get down on the floor and nobody gets hurt!'' whose first part can be interpreted as ''this is a delay!''. While it may seem far fetched, it could be related to the slowness Wikipedia has been experiencing lately. Therefore, the fact that they all handed him their [[Wikipedia:WikiMoney|WikiMoney]] cannot be interpreted as a [[robbery]] and invalidates the evidence of trying to resolve the dispute. [[User:Gcbirzan|gcbirzan]] ([[User_talk:Gcbirzan|talk]]) 12:00, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) 

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# [[User:Gcbirzan|gcbirzan]] ([[User_talk:Gcbirzan|talk]]) 12:00, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) You know, everybody keeps talking about this as it's already been established that [[User:Silsor|silsor]] is guilty, even before the trial! Oh, and, yes, he did beat up [[User:Luigi30|Luigi30]], but he had it coming for being guilty! Also, out of the four people that support this, two didn't even have [[Wikipedia:WikiMoney|WikiMoney]] at the time, one didn't use it and only one is genuinely interested in the matter. What is the other three's interest in accusing [[User:Silsor|silsor]] and jumping on the false evidence presented here? Because of the above, and because I don't see anyone asking for their [[WikiMoney|money]] back, I believe that [[User:Silsor|silsor]] was framed, and that he is, in fact, innocent!
# [[User:Luigi30|Luigi30]] 21:16, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) I am not a tax evader! He stole my lunch money! That &psi;20 was going to be in my account. I just got it changed from &lambda;20 into &psi;20 and that guy ran up and stole it!
#Endorse wholeheartedly - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 05:51, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

==Outside view==
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Users who endorse this summary (sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>):
# [[User:Maurreen|Maurreen]] 05:25, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) Keep him away from the [[Monopoly (game)|Monopoly]] money, or he'll take that, too.
# [[User:Ashley Pomeroy|Ashley Pomeroy]] 12:09, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC) A terrible crime; not just against humanity, but against numbers. I love numbers, I always have, I believe they are a primal force of nature, and anyone who tries to mess with numbers deserves the most terrible punishment. "One through nine, no maybes, no supposes, no fractions. You can't travel in space, you can't go out into space, you know, without, like, you know, with fractions. What are you going to land on? One-quarter, three-eighths? What are you going to do when you go from here to Venus or something? That's dialectic physics."
#Endorse wholeheartedly - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 05:51, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#Kewl! I gotta get me one of dem [[Wikipedia:WikiMoney|WikiMoney]] accounts. I'll be rich! WikiRich I tells ya! Then I'll buy this Internet thingy and rule the whole stinking world!!!!1!! --[[User:Deathphoenix|Death]][[User_talk:Deathphoenix|'''phoenix''']] 05:55, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#If ''some'' wikimoney had been left in circulation, then the relative scarcity would have caused the value of the remaining units to increase.  However, by removing ''all'' wikimoney from circulation Silsor has effectively [[Money#How_is_it_destroyed_.3F|destroyed]] the money, reducing its value to zero.   Unless he immediately releases at least a working portion back into circulation, Silsor's 3154 units of (zero-value) currency will therefore have a total value of zero.  This is far beyond simple robbery -- it is an economic crisis.  [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 11:58, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

===Johnleemk===
Silsor did not write his defense! Obviously [[User:gcbirzan|gcbirzan]] is his sockpuppet. [[m:Really Reformed Church of Wikipedia|Lynch Silsor as a heretical two-faced liar]].
:Well, yeah, he's "overseas" moving his money in. gcbirzan is probably just a messenger. [[User_talk:Alerante|&#x201c;]][[User:Alerante|alerante]][[User_talk:Alerante|&#x201d;]] 19:40, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Users who endorse this summary (sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>):
#[[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 09:50, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#Endorse wholeheartedly - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 05:51, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

===Cool Hand Luke===
Yeah, truly unforgivable, but I suggest [[Pardon|leniency]] because I've [[counterfeit]]ed enough wikimoney to bail everybody out.

Users who endorse this summary (sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>):
#[[User:Cool Hand Luke|Cool Hand]] [[User talk:Cool Hand Luke|<font color="purple">Luke</font>]] 12:36, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#Endorse wholeheartedly - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 05:51, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

===MacGyverMagic===
I'm shocked! I never thought he'd do such a thing. I ask the arbitrators to force him to return all the stolen money and fine him an additional 500,000 units of WikiMoney for the offence to be evenly divided amongst Silsor's victims. [[User:131.211.210.157|131.211.210.157]] 14:27, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
*Above has been posted from anon IP by me. -- [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 22:02, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

Users who endorse this summary (sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>):
#[[User:131.211.210.157|131.211.210.157]] 14:27, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
#Endorse wholeheartedly - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 05:51, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)


===Coolcat===
No silsor is innocent. Suspect had a pink T-shirt and vanished in the crowd northbound. --[[User:Coolcat|Cool Cat]] [[User talk:Coolcat|<sup>My Talk</sup>]] 18:10, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

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