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== Arminius ==

I see you've brought a case against Arminius.  As you probably noticed he blocked me once on a 3-revert infraction in September.  I'm not so terribly concerned about that (I was out of line).  My concern is that he refused to admit any error and persisted in his actions after others pointed out the error.  Guanaco unblocked me [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Arminius&diff=6230559&oldid=6219252] and notified Arminius of his error [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Guanaco/archive&diff=6259827&oldid=6259801].  He re-instated the block anyway [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Wolfman/3&diff=6274387&oldid=6274180].  

Perusing his history reveals a pattern:

In October [[User:Michael Snow]] unblocked [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Arminius&diff=6784922&oldid=6779594] another user blocked against policy by Arminius.  In reply, Arminius thanked him for his "interference" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Michael_Snow&diff=6807881&oldid=6784851].

Here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Arminius&diff=7437006&oldid=7380501] and here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sam_Hocevar#GNAA_Popeye], Arminius refuses to provide information providing a reblock.  Whether the block was justified or not, the refusal to answer a legitimate query about it is not justified.

Here [[User:Mark Richards]] notes that Arminius is again not properly justifying blocks [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Arminius&diff=7380501&oldid=6904909].

In the Chameleon incident, Arminius removed complaints with the comments "remove troll message" and remove "already read/ignorant message".  He replied to mirv complaint with the heading "response to foolishness" and called those who had unblocked Chameleon "ignorant".  In response to mirv warning he stated "Please feel free to make any case against me you like. I honestly don't care that much." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Mirv&diff=7717789&oldid=7714835]

In short, Arminius has displayed extremely poor temperment as a sysadmin, little respect for others who disagree with actions, and little respect for policy.  While I think he is well-intentioned, I expect better than good intentions out of our sysadmins. [[User:Wolfman|Wolfman]] 21:37, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

::The arbitrators asked for a chronological listing of the incidents.  I siezed upon that as an excuse to procrastinate about real work, even though I'm not a complainant in the case.  You should have a look to make sure you agree with my attempt. [[User:Wolfman|Wolfman]] 05:11, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)  

:Hi Neutrality - Without having read all the guidelines, my guess is that arbitration process is largely for members of the arbitration commitee to consider. I'm rather disappointed, but not surprised, that Arminius' actions in yesterday's pie fight have lead to [[User:Chameleon|Chameleon]] leaving Wikipedia again. As far as I could tell Chameleon was a good contributor with useful translation skills. If there is anything I can do to help, just let me know. -- [[User:Solipsist|Solipsist]] 21:57, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== [[Victorian era]] ==
You voted for [[Victorian era]], this week's [[Wikipedia:UK Wikipedians' notice board/UKCOTW|UK Collaboration of the week]].  Please come and help it become a [[Wikipedia:Featured_articles|featured]]-[[Wikipedia:What is a featured article|standard]] article[[Template:UKCOTW message|.]] -- [[User:Francs2000|Graham  &#9786;]] | [[User talk:Francs2000|Talk]] 02:45, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== Neutrality ==

[[Image:Quadell seal of approval.PNG|right|]]
Greetings. You have my endorsement for [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2004]], and you have therefore earned the Quadell seal of approval. Feel free to use this image, or not, as you like. (You won't hurt my feelings if you don't.) [[User:Quadell|<nowiki></nowiki>]] &ndash; [[User:Quadell|'''Q'''uadell]] <sup>([[User_talk:Quadell|talk]]) ([[User:Quadell/Request for assistance|help]])</sup>[[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 05:11, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)

==Arbitration Committee Election Get Out the Vote Effort==
Hi Candidate Neutrality,

I have chosen to endorse your candidacy for the Arbitration Committee.

I think the best way to insure that your candidacy is successful, is to help to increase voter turnout.

One of the technical people on this site, who goes by the name Danny, helped me to make a very convenient tag that makes it super easy to place this "get out the vote" banner on your user page:

{{ArbComElection}}

Please consider adding this tag to your user page, as a great many pages link to your user page.

Thanks in advance if you choose to help out. If there are any issues which prevent you from doing so, please let me know - I would be happy to make a custom version of this tag just for your page if that's what it takes for you to proudly display it.

If you choose to display this banner, please put the tag as near to the top as your aesthetic sense will permit. :)

Regards,

--[[User:David Vasquez|DV]] 17:25, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

==My adminship request==
Thanks for your support! --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]{[[User talk:Jpgordon|gab}]] 06:11, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

==MacGyverMagic for adminship==
I've decided to take the plunge and self-nominate for adminship to make the work I do a lot easier. Please head over to [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#MacGyverMagic]] and let your voice be heard. There's no hard feelings if you oppose, just make sure you let me know how I can improve. -- [[User:MacGyverMagic|[[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|<sup>[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|(talk)]]</sup>]] 10:37, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

== A quick note to say ''thanks'' ==

[[Image:WikiThanks.png]]

I just wanted to drop you a quick note to thank you for your support in my ''request for adminship''. It was certainly a wild ride, and I really appreciate you taking some time out to contribute. [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork'''Soul''']] 16:05, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== Article Licensing ==
I've "started" the [[User:rambot|Free the Rambot Articles Project]] which aims to get users to release all of their contributions to the U.S. state, county, and city articles under the CC-by-sa 1.0 and 2.0 license (at minimum) or into the public domain if they prefer.  A secondary goal is to get those users to release ALL of their edits for ALL articles.  I've personally chosen to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all of the [[User:rambot|rambot]] and [[User:Ram-Man|Ram-Man]] contributions under the [[Creative Commons]] Attribution-Share Alike [[Creative Commons License|License]] so that other projects, such as [[WikiTravel]], can use our articles.  I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all your contributions (or at ''minimum'' those on the geographic articles) so that we can keep most of the articles available under the multi-license.  Many users use the '''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>''' template (or even '''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>''' for [[public domain]]) on their user page, but there are other templates for other options at [[Wikipedia:Template messages/User namespace#Licensing Templates|Template messages/User namespace]].  If you only prefer using the [[GFDL]], I understand, but I thought I'd at least ask, just in case, since the number of your edits is in the top 100.  If you do want to do it, simply just copy and paste one of the above two templates into your user page and it will allow us to track those users who have done it. For example:

:'''Option 1'''
:<nowiki>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>
'''OR'''
:'''Option 2'''
:<nowiki>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain (which many people do or don't like to do, see [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing]]), you could replace '''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>''' with '''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>''' -- [[User:Ram-Man|Ram-Man]] 21:56, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

==Election article titles==
How to title the articles on this subject, and how to present the subject matter (which topics go in which article), was the subject of a lot of discussion on different talk pages.  There was a consensus to have one article about the controversy generally, without reference in its title to "irregularities".  To the people doing a lot of work on the points about exit polls and EVM's, that word suggested a focus on the statistical analysis.  As a result, it was a problem to present a more general article.

I don't care too much about the title of the really long article.  Different parts of it have already been copied to new articles, and I think that, before long, that huge article (the one now at [[2004 U.S. presidential election controversy and irregularities]]) will be turned into a redirect, because other articles will have absorbed all its material.  But I think it's very important that the overview article, which you moved to [[2004 U.S. election voting controversy and irregularities]], be moved back to [[2004 U.S. election voting controversies]].  The other articles can handle the "irregularity" analysis.   [[User:JamesMLane|JamesMLane]] 06:32, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== Did you get my e-mail? ==
Hi Neutrality, did you get my e-mail?  I sent you one the other day about a curious e-mail I received. [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg]] 19:36, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== My talk page ==

Thank you for reverting ed g2s's entirely out-of-line edit to my talk page. [[User:Blankfaze|{{User:Blankfaze/sig}}]] 07:25, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== WikiUser ==

He may be a pest, but legal threats are still not a valid reason for blocking someone&mdash;not that [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-November/032220.html this] is obviously a legal threat; it's whinging, yes, but I don't see any promises of legal action. I've unblocked him. [[User:Mirv|&#8212;No-One]][[User talk:Mirv|&nbsp;''Jones'']]&nbsp;[[Special:Emailuser/Mirv|<sup>(m)</sup>]] 20:53, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oh! It was you. Well despite the insults, thanks. Incidently I wasn't whinging, just because I have different views from you. I posted on the list not for my benefit but to help other Wiki users know what was going on on the wikipedia.[[User:WikiUser|WikiUser]] 21:45, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== La Fayette ==

Shall I move [[Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury]] to [[Lord Salisbury]] (a disambiguation page), since he is known universally as Lord Salisbury?  When I get around to putting in the other marquis de La Fayette, where ought they to go? The British nobility are all put under their full names and titles; why should the French nobility be different?  &#8212;[[User:Tkinias|Tkinias]] 02:41, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== The Photographer's Barnstar ==

I just thought you might want to know, Grunt created the [[:Image:Barnstar-camera.png|Photographer's Barnstar]] that you proposed. [[User:ClockworkSoul|{{User:ClockworkSoul/sig}}]] 03:18, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)