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== Le Sage's Theory of Gravitation ==

Apeiron is a reliable source. So is Stowe. To see them as unreliable is a subjective view based entirely on orthodoxy. And there is no OR. The conclusions are from Van Flandern, not from me. Also, there are plenty of articles on Wikipedia that have truly unreliable sources and OR and that are entirely biased and there are no reverts for them and not even any disclaimers. In fact, this article is biased and without any disclaimers.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Capt. Ciel|Capt. Ciel]] ([[User talk:Capt. Ciel#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Capt. Ciel|contribs]]) 15:19, 20 June 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:{{rto|Capt. Ciel}} note that Wikipedia is actually ''about'' scientific orthodoxy — see [[wp:FRINGE]] and [[wp:DUE]]. Best practice (see [[wp:BRD]]) is to open a little section on the article talk page and discuss with the other editors of the article. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 15:26, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

::Being about orthodoxy goes against the pillar of neutrality. Taking the side of orthodoxy is not being neutral.[[User:Capt. Ciel|Capt. Ciel]] ([[User talk:Capt. Ciel|talk]]) 19:07, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
:::<small>Please indent your talk page messages as outlined in [[wp:THREAD]] and [[wp:INDENT]] — See [[Help:Using talk pages]]. Thanks.</small>
:::Perhaps, but that is how Wikipedia was designed. See [[WP:5P2]] - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 20:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
::::I don't see my edits. It seems they were deleted instead of reverted. [[User:Capt. Ciel|Capt. Ciel]] ([[User talk:Capt. Ciel|talk]]) 23:12, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
:::::See [[Special:Contributions/Capt. Ciel]]. If you have made edits that are not in that list, perhaps you forgot to logon. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 07:18, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::It's the edit you reverted and I was logged in, but I found it. There was definitely NO OR in it. Also, I think you know putting it in the Talk page won't do any good (altho I might try it anyways) because the system is rigged--most or all of the administrators are orthodoxers. And it makes artificial and arbitrary rules  in favour of supposition-based orthodoxy, like orthodox science does, to exclude enlightened and progressive dissidents, who are based on empirical evidence. [[User:Capt. Ciel|Capt. Ciel]] ([[User talk:Capt. Ciel|talk]]) 18:32, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::: Better do the talk page: Wikipedia is heavily rigged on [[wp:CONSENSUS]]. This policy tends to trump most other policies. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 18:58, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

==i see your message==
i see your message regarding specific relativity. article is not self-promotion but belief that the synoptic nature of the article would be interesting and helpful to anyone looking at this topic page. I can eliminate the reference to the author, which makes it seem self promotional. looking for your comment.[[User:Catalog1|Catalog1]] ([[User talk:Catalog1|talk]]) 18:41, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
:<small>Please put new talk page messages at the bottom of talk pages — See [[Help:Using talk pages]]. Thanks.</small>
:{{rto|Catalog1}} only, if this particular content is mentioned in the established literature (i.e. backed by relevant [[wp:secondary sources]]), it could be included in Wikipedia. Otherwise it is regarded as [[wp:original research]], and is not allowed here. Please see our [[wp:five pillars]]- [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 18:54, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
::{{rto|DVdm}} Yes this article was published in established literature: Journal of Applied Mechanics. It is not original research but is a secondary source condensing and commenting on Einstein's Theory and Lorentz' work. The article includes references and publication detail. Do you need further information before I request to post this article?[[User:Catalog1|Catalog1]] ([[User talk:Catalog1|talk]]) 19:02, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
::: With [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special_relativity&type=revision&diff=902849108&oldid=902076082 this edit] you tried to add an external link to someone's work—yours, of from someone with whom you are affiliated in some way? Anyway, [[wp:NOT|Wikipedia is not the place for that]]—see pointers to various articles regarding our relevant policies and guidelines in the message on your user talk page. Specially [[wp:ELNO]]. Further information is unlikely to make the link appropriate. You ''can'' always propose on the article talk page to include it, but the chances are very small that the link will be accepted, and I think it will turn out to be a waste of your and the community's time. As you can see, in the mean time <s>two</s> three editors have edited the article, and they are likely to have seen your edit and to have approved my revert. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 21:22, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

==Thing Fish==
Can we discuss it at the article.?-[[User:ApexUnderground|ApexUnderground]] ([[User talk:ApexUnderground|talk]]) 08:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
:Sure, that's what article talk pages are for. Go ahead. I'll have a look later today or tomorrow. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:05, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{rto|ApexUnderground}} I went ahead already: see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AThing-Fish&type=revision&diff=903066429&oldid=882322431]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
:And, finally, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Thing-Fish&oldid=904457438#Category]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 10:33, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

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== trig changes ==

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current image is incorrect and poor. The subject is complex and requires a detailed image. please change it back. The old image has cosine labled wrong.

[[User:Pvd|Pvd]] ([[User talk:Pvd|talk]]) 17:03, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
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:{{rto|Pvd}} Let's discuss at the relevant talk page. See you at [[Talk:Trigonometry]]... - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 17:58, 2 July 2019 (UTC)


== [[Tidal force]] ==

Hi! I have seen [[User_talk:82.6.195.35|your message]]. I have restored [[Tidal_force#In_free_fall|the paragraph]] after adding a reference as requested! --[[Special:Contributions/82.6.195.35|82.6.195.35]] ([[User talk:82.6.195.35|talk]]) 23:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
:I have removed it again, as most of the added content is not in the source. Only the formula is there. I removed per [[wp:unsourced]] and [[wp:no original research]]. See also [[wp:CALC]]. If you insist on adding the content, you can discuss on the article talk page at [[Talk:Tidal force#Free fall]], but make sure to bring a source that supports everything you want to add. See also [[wp:BRD]]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 07:04, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
::Ok, I expressed my point [[Talk:Tidal force#Free fall|there]]. --[[Special:Contributions/82.6.195.35|82.6.195.35]] ([[User talk:82.6.195.35|talk]]) 02:38, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
::: Thx. Ditto {{smiley}}. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)


== It's Not From Me ==

Hi Dvdm, I feel confused when I get a message from you on this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:203.78.116.212 because of an act of vandalism, because I never edited the article and never even opened it, but I found that the vandalism was written from my ip. The ip address was only used by my family, and I did not get a history from my family device that showed the existence of such vandalism. So what really happened to my IP address that was registered on Wikipedia? can give me any solutions? 
I have created a Wikipedia account. btw, sorry for my bad english, I'm not native and  i new in wikipedia editing.
[[User:Risesia|Risesia]] ([[User talk:Risesia|talk]]) 12:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
:Good that you have created a username then {{smiley}}. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 15:59, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

== Your comments on my talk page ==

I'm not very sure whether you have added [[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] on my talk page as a administrator. I agree that we can discuss anything on my talk page, but I am not comfortable with [[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] on my talk page, if you are adding [[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] to my page, not as an administrative role. Could you please help to remove [[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]] on my discussion page? Of course, we could continue our discussion, if there is anything we need to talk about. Thanks for your consideration.

Since you are an experienced user, could you please let me know who can decide when edit(s) are [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive]]? Any users? Or administrators only? Thanks for your time :).

P.S. I'm not sure how to include administrators in this discussion (without reporting). Otherwise, I will include them for an open discussion to make things clear. Also, again, I have figured out [[Wikipedia:No original research#Synthesis of published material|synthetic research]] on my own and [[Circle packing|corrected myself]], and [[User talk:D.Lazard#Chain Integration by Parts|nobody clearly advised me]] on this particular violation (every contribution/claim I made was proven in the page itself, therefore belonging only to [[Wikipedia:No original research#Synthesis of published material|synthetic research]]). [[User:Harry Princeton|Harry Princeton]] ([[User talk:Harry Princeton|talk]]) 21:41, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

: {{rto|Harry Princeton}} The warning icons come with standard warning templates. First level user warning has a [[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=]]. Second level warning has a [[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]]. Third level warning has a [[File:Nuvola apps important.svg|25px|alt=Warning icon]]. Fourth level—final—warning has a [[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]]. After that someone might report you at some noticeboard, and one or more administrators might decide to block you for some time.
:I already told you that you can remove almost any comment from your talk page in the comment that you removed with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AHarry_Princeton&type=revision&diff=907014384&oldid=907012910 this edit], and that you said that you "don't need". See some guidelines about what you can do on your user talk page at [[wp:OWNTALK]] and [[wp:REMOVED]], and, again, at [[wp:TALKO]].
:If you like to add some content to an article that gets reverted by users, and they tell you that it is unsourced or original research, then the place to go, is the article talk page. Before you go there, make sure that you have a source to supoort the content, and be aware that ''your own proofs are not accepted''. You tried to enter original research, as outlined in the policy [[wp:NOR]], and there is no such thing on Wikipedia as "synthetic research". Your proofs can be correct, but they do ''not count as [[wp:reliable sources]]''. See, again [[wp:verifiability]], [[wp:CALC]], and [[wp:BURDEN]], to which I pointed in the message that you removed on your talk page. If your proofs are not present in the literature, Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, assumes that they are not worth being mentioned. That is by design—see [[wp:Five pillars]]. 
: In case of disputes, we have [[wp:dispute resolution]]. Be aware that administrators tend not to intervene with administratve tasks in ''content'' disputes, but they will do so where there are behavioural problems. Try to avoid those.
: After having exhausted the first step of dispute resolution (article talk page discussion), as a second step, you could try the [[wp:No original research/Noticeboard]], but don't forget to carefully read and follow the instructions before you do so. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 22:57, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

::P.P.S. Yes, the violation was indeed a mix of [[Wikipedia:No original research#Synthesis of published material|novel synthesis]] (mainly drawing from Wikipedia page links) and [[Wikipedia:Consensus|nonconsensual]] [[wp:CALC|routine calculations]] (BTW, I still think ''original research'' appears to me to be an inaccurate catch-all term, but your 2nd-level-warning comment covered these specific topics among others). [[User:Harry Princeton|Harry Princeton]] ([[User talk:Harry Princeton|talk]]) 13:34, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

::: {{rto|Harry Princeton}} Another thing about talk pages: with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADVdm&type=revision&diff=907312735&oldid=907298252 this edit] you just changed a message of yours ''to which I already had replied''. Please do not do that. The reason is explained in [[wp:REDACT]], which is, again, part of the [[wp:talk page guidelines]]. Your PPS has a better place immediately under my response. You also forgot to sign. Please take some time to carefully read the talk page guidelines and preferably also the recommendations at [[Help:Talk pages]]. Thanks. And, yes, there is a ''lot to learn'' here at Wikipedia... - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 08:30, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

::::Now it is immediately under your ''previous'' response, as requested. [[User:Harry Princeton|Harry Princeton]] ([[User talk:Harry Princeton|talk]]) 13:34, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
::::: And now it is properly indented as in [[wp:INDENT]]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 15:32, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::: And now, I'm all good :). [[User:Harry Princeton|Harry Princeton]] ([[User talk:Harry Princeton|talk]]) 18:04, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::: Yep. By the way, regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cycloid&diff=prev&oldid=907377437 this], see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cycloid&curid=41638&diff=907397069&oldid=907384755 this]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 18:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

== A cup of tea for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for supporting my recent albeit unsuccessful RfA. Your support was much appreciated. It was particularly heartening tjat editors like yourself continued to support even when the RfA went west.   [[User:Hawkeye7|<span style="color:#800082">Hawkeye7</span>]] [[User_talk:Hawkeye7|<span style="font-size:80%">(discuss)</span>]] 19:38, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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: {{rto|Hawkeye7}} well, [https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/1186367.Home_is_Where_the_Wind_Blows West is from where the wind blows], right? {{smiley}}. Thanks, cheers and see you around! - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

== My edit is sourced ==

The information I added in the lead from the [[Tucker Carlson|Tucker Carlson article]] is developed and sourced in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson#Personal_life personal life section]. But I can use sources in the lead and even develop it further in the article as well. '''[[User:Ajñavidya|Ajñavidya]] ([[User talk:Ajñavidya|talk]]) 08:44, 5 September 2019 (UTC)'''

:{{rto|Ajñavidya}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tucker_Carlson&type=revision&diff=914097825&oldid=914073378 This edit] does not provide a source. See [[wp:verifiability]] anbd [[wp:BURDEN]]. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:37, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

::Re-read the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson#Personal_life personal life section], concretely the last paragraph. The sources for my edit are there. '''[[User:Ajñavidya|Ajñavidya]] ([[User talk:Ajñavidya|talk]]) 22:33, 5 September 2019 (UTC)'''
:::If you think that's sufficient to back the claim, then you can propose it on the article talk page. But note the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tucker_Carlson&type=revision&diff=914099104&oldid=914097825 the reason why] user {{u|Comatmebro}} undid the edit. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:51, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

::::Of course this information is important to his biography. The harassment incidents even led to a police investigation and the harassers continued intimidate his co-workers. There are other biographies in Wikipedia that have complete sections devoted to harassment even when they're not proved or based; nothing justifies the exclusion of this one which is backed by a police report and criminal investigation. '''[[User:Ajñavidya|Ajñavidya]] ([[User talk:Ajñavidya|talk]]) 07:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)'''
::::: You have to convince the other contributors on the article talk page [[Talk:Tucker Carlson]]. If the information is indeed important, you should have no difficulty doing that. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 07:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

== Comment regarding IP ==

You recently reverted a change to the "Normal Number" page on wikipedia and cited this IP: 132.62.88.128 (for the record, I personally have never been to that page, nor made changes to it).

While 132.62.x.x is the IP space for Kirtland AFB (publicly available information), this IP is not tied to an end user machine, and is instead a network level device on Kirtland AFB - hence, everyone on Kirtland who reaches the internet through that device (likely everybody, I would have to check with the NCC as to what device it specifically is, but I presume it is the border router that is NATing for the base, since my specific computer has a 129.238.x.x IP that is specific to my organization on base) and opens Wikipedia is getting this "you've been bad" message.

While I understand the reason behind "page security", to ensure the correctness of information (as much as possible) on Wikipedia, from this side of the equation, I have to provide you the same feedback - there is not a 'single editor' coming from the IP you are listing - it is a border device that likely handles most, if not all, standard internet traffic to/from the base. It would be impossible from your end to determine who the end user is that is making these changes.

There is a specialized group of investigators for the USAF who work for 24th Air Force who investigate malicious activity (malware, hacking, remote code execution, exfiltration, etc), however I doubt they would be willing to devote resources to finding the specific perpetrators of these "unwanted edits" using their internal logging capabilities.

This is common across all USAF bases - the only IP the "outside world" should ever see is our border router, and thus, knowing the actual perpetrator of "vandalism" (as wikipedia likes to call it) is virtually impossible.

[[Special:Contributions/131.15.136.129|131.15.136.129]] ([[User talk:131.15.136.129|talk]]) 16:48, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

:As twice indicated at [[User talk:132.62.88.128]], please consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] for yourself or [[Special:UserLogin|logging in with an existing account]] so you can avoid further (possibly) irrelevant notices. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 17:01, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
::I don't think you're understanding... the person who is responding to you is NOT the person who made the edit you reverted - I'm simply someone who understands (and has long worked with) the USAF network structure. You putting a "notice" to the User talk page for that IP does absolutely no good (or, conceivably exceptionally little good), because it is not an end user IP, and the person or persons you are addressing regarding the changes may never see your input, because the next person on base who goes to Wikipedia after you have made your comment (in this case, me) would be the one to see and clear the message.
::By all means, continue to police the articles that are your specialty, I'm not saying to not do that... I'm simply letting you know that sending "threats" of blocking, and/or recommendations on corrective actions etc, to a non-end user IP address is... not helpful, for lack of a better way to phrase it.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/132.62.88.130|132.62.88.130]] ([[User talk:132.62.88.130#top|talk]]) 18:53, 6 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::<small>Please [[wp:signature|sign]] all your talk page messages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) — See [[Help:Using talk pages]]. Thanks.</small>
::: Yes, I know that the person who is responding to me might not be the person who made the edit I reverted. That is exactly the reason why, in order to avoid possibly irrelevant notices, all these persons (including the "next person on base") are advised to create an account. That advice is standard practice in Wikipedia. Don't take it personal. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 08:44, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

== Need of citation of a source at Fermat number ==

Hi! I have noticed your edits at my talk page and at [[Fermat number]]. What exactly is the statement added by me which really needs a citation? The fact that Fermat numbers are terms of a numerical sequence (which is easily noticeable as the statement "The sky (without clouds) is blue" as specified somewhere here in some wikiprocedures) or the specification of ''main motivation'' of Fermat studying these types of numbers in regards to primality? This aspect re primality is ''already in article in a section'' but without explicit acknowledgement of ''main motivation''. I think that is only aspect which requires citation. Thoughts?--[[Special:Contributions/109.166.129.57|109.166.129.57]] ([[User talk:109.166.129.57|talk]]) 14:17, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

:The statement added by [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fermat_number&type=revision&diff=914976965&oldid=914976281 this edit] has no source. If it is indeed true and sufficiently important to say this in the article, then it shouldn't be too difficult to find a source for it — see [[wp:verifiability]] and [[wp:burden]]. You can also go to the article talk page and query thoughts from the other article contributors. Good luck! - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 14:41, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

::There are several edits by me, not all really needing citation. I understand from your diff that the main somewhat controversial edit is that at 13:36 about the ''simple enumeration'' procedure used by Fermat in the statement of the conjecture. Is it right?--[[Special:Contributions/109.166.129.57|109.166.129.57]] ([[User talk:109.166.129.57|talk]]) 15:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
::: Yep {{smiley}}. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 15:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

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== Issue concerning a fake flag in the system. ==


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:81.148.124.94
Hello, I been lead to you for vandalising a page, however I do never remembering editing this or looking at the page at all, I believe it is a shared ip. Thanks
--[[User:Studios Universal|Studios Universal]] ([[User talk:Studios Universal|talk]]) 08:28, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

:Hello. There's nothing fake about the messages at [[User talk:81.148.124.94]]. That's why another message on that IP talk page says:
::
::<hr>
::<div style="background-color: {{{color|#fff0f0}}};">''If this is a [[Network address translation|shared IP address]], and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] for yourself or [[Special:UserLogin|logging in with an existing account]] so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.''<!-- Template:Shared IP advice --></div>
::<hr>
:Cheers - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 10:20, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

== I am going to kill myself ==

I am going to kill myself [[User:Octnine|Octnine]] ([[User talk:Octnine|talk]]) 14:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC)