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== [[Index:1930 QLD Royal Commission into Racing Report.djvu]] ==

This is a mess , with 2 different styles of sidenotes used.

Can someone set ONE style consistently across this, and leave a note on the talk page? [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 23:23, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

(contracted; show full);'would'' like to keep it as true to the text as possible, but I would also like to keep it as simple as possible (and browser-friendly).  I also would not know how to apply the coding/formatting based on the link you provided, being myself technically-challenged... [[User:Londonjackbooks|Londonjackbooks]] ([[User talk:Londonjackbooks|talk]]) 01:28, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks, GO3.  [[User:Londonjackbooks|Londonjackbooks]] ([[User talk:Londonjackbooks|talk]]) 14:39, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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== Accessing (.edu - type) Open Courseware Materials ==

Hi, I am currently experiencing a ton of DNS-issue related problems in accessing opencourseware content related to Utah Valley State College (specifically with accessing Joylin Namie's Sociocultural Anthropology course materials - ie. Podcasts), and would like some help. Where/how I can get the best help for these issues would be great! 

On this site I tried a few of the links regarding accessing the content and recieved pages that were not available. 

Please help! {{unsigned|LliamShepherd}}

:The links that we have may be old, and no longer exist. If you are getting blocking errors, I would suggest that you talk to your ISP, there isn't much we can do for you. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 10:58, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

== Soft redirects to other Wikimedia sites ==

As I have exported most amended [[Portal:Law of the Republic of China|Law of the Republic of China]] as evolving works to Wikibooks, do we have soft redirects to other Wikimedia sites, please?--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|talk]]) 06:41, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
:I would think that we would just link normally and state that they are at enWB. It is not impossible for us to have a Translation: ns page of a piece of law, so the portal page is a relevant page to keep. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 12:22, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
::A broken redirect was left behind: [[Additional_Articles_of_the_Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China_(2000)]]. {{Ping|Jusjih}}, could you look into it?. Thanks.--[[User:Mpaa|Mpaa]] ([[User talk:Mpaa|talk]]) 21:07, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
:::Thanks. I am adding soft redirects for long term.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|talk]]) 08:18, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

== Between Two Loves Title page and TOC ==

I just got finished proofreading the novel ''Between Two Loves''. Now who wants to add the image at [[Page:Between Two Loves.djvu/6|its title page]] and modify its table of contents? Fix the pages that mark a new chapter, particularly the quotes before the chapter starts? --[[User:Lo Ximiendo|Lo Ximiendo]] ([[User talk:Lo Ximiendo|talk]]) 10:43, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

: How about the [[Page:Between Two Loves.djvu/230|quoted paragraph on the start of a chapter]]? --[[User:Lo Ximiendo|Lo Ximiendo]] ([[User talk:Lo Ximiendo|talk]]) 11:05, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

== Bracketed limits in TeX formulae ==

Work: [[Index:The_evolution_of_worlds_-_Lowell.djvu]]
Pages: [[Page:The_evolution_of_worlds_-_Lowell.djvu/289]], [[Page:The_evolution_of_worlds_-_Lowell.djvu/292]], [[Page:The_evolution_of_worlds_-_Lowell.djvu/293]]

Issue:  Square brackets have limits on them, which was not seemingly possible to render on the relevant lefthand side bracket, currently rendered on righthand bracket.  Assistance from someoenw that knows TeX would be appreciated. [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 19:19, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
:Suggestion: drop usage of \left and \right and substitute \Bigl and \Bigr respectively. You may then either:<ol><li>superscript and subscript the symbol using normal _ and ^ methods, or</li><li>\overset and \underset the limits per (for example) [[Page:The_evolution_of_worlds_-_Lowell.djvu/289]].</li></ol>The choice essentially boils down to offset or vertical (my choice) alignment of the limit values. [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 05:51, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
:Done, care to do a validation pass? [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 22:23, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
::With respect with that many unaddressed problematic pages nobody is going to get interested in this work. Come back when you have a real request, rather than a whine. [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 06:02, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
:::With respect to your respect I respectfully incline that I'm sure addressing this matter will fix many of the "unaddressed problematic pages" or at the very least give the ability to move forward in addressing many "unaddressed problematic pages." Much respect, --[[User:Rochefoucauld|Rochefoucauld]] ([[User talk:Rochefoucauld|talk]]) 16:07, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

== Custom layout ==

I'd like to define my own layout for books. To test, I copied the code at [[Help:Layout#How_to_write_dynamic_layouts]] to [[User:Chowbok/common.js]], but I don't see any difference, and "My Layout" isn't coming up under the Display Options. Do I have the wrong idea on how this works, or did I miss something, or...? --[[User:Chowbok|Chowbok]] ([[User talk:Chowbok|talk]]) 06:53, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
:Dynamic layouts are not a personal/custom layout they are all system layouts. To affect personal changes you would need to utilise CSS code in your [[Special:MyPage/common.css]]. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 09:41, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
::But that would affect how everything is displayed, right? I just want to have an alternative layout as an option under Display Options. Is that possible?[[User:Chowbok|Chowbok]] ([[User talk:Chowbok|talk]]) 17:24, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

== Books without Indexes? ==

How does it work if I want to edit a book that's already here, but there's no index or source for it? I assume those weren't used in the earlier days of this site. Should I add them as if it's a new project, or start a new project, or something else?--[[User:Chowbok|Chowbok]] ([[User talk:Chowbok|talk]]) 06:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

:What is the name of the book? [[User:William Maury Morris II|—Maury]] ([[User talk:William Maury Morris II|talk]]) 07:41, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

::Chowbok, you have started a new book, Index:The Confessions of a Well-Meaning Woman.djvu, and have done little on it. Why not complete what you have just started? That is already a "new project".  We get too many partial books here the way you are doing. We are backed up with incomplete books started and abandoned for others here to finish. Try completing what you yourself start before looking for another one to start. [[User:William Maury Morris II|—Maury]] ([[User talk:William Maury Morris II|talk]]) 09:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

:::Sheesh. "Done little"? I think I've done pretty well on that considering I just started it a couple days ago, and it's my first project. I can't even ''ask'' about other stuff? Guess you guys don't have a "don't bite the newbies" rule like at Wikipedia.[[User:Chowbok|Chowbok]] ([[User talk:Chowbok|talk]]) 17:10, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

:::If are looking to replicate an existing work with a scan-supported text, unless you are 100% certain that there is an exact version/edition match, then it would be a case of a separate version, and we would disambiguate the two versions, or maybe delete the version unsupported by a scan (an independent decision). — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 09:44, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

::::Chowbok, I did not know you are new here. You have done so much on Wikipedia and seem to know how to bring in a book and start working on it. But it is still "little done" when you start asking for other books and asking what should you do. I just answered your '''question''' and then asked you, ''Why not complete what you have just started?'' but I am not going to argue with you over my reply. The book you *started* awaits and is simple. No, you should not "start a new project". You should finish that short and simple book you started that I validated pages on. That book isn't difficult. Oh, it isn't "guys" (plural) you are replying to - it is one person being only myself. Do you want me to do that little book for you so that you can start on a more complicated one? [[User:William Maury Morris II|—Maury]] ([[User talk:William Maury Morris II|talk]]) 21:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

:::::No, I'll finish it, thank you. As I said, and you can verify this, I'm making pretty good progress on it, little as it may be. Sorry for even ''thinking'' about the future. I promise I won't even ''talk'' about other projects until I've finished this miniscule book you so sneeringly refer to.--[[User:Chowbok|Chowbok]] ([[User talk:Chowbok|talk]]) 21:47, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

:::::: Since you are "new" here, and I didn't know as stated above, you are going far better than "pretty good". I didn't intend to mean the book is on a nanoscale. Peace be with you, [[User:William Maury Morris II|—Maury]] ([[User talk:William Maury Morris II|talk]]) 22:12, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

== my first proofread page ==

My first proofread page at:

http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:15_decisive_battles_of_the_world_Vol_1_%28London%29.djvu/101&action=history

seems to have a problem that I don't understand.  Please help if you can.

The first footnote seems to have a space before the "big dot" which is supposed to be an "asterisk" (*).  What did I do wrong?  or is it because I use Mozilla Firefox?  All help appreciated as I try to be helpful making improvements to Wikisource.


KenJ

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*KenJ

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: Look at how the asterisk works above. That volume states this at the top: <mark>"Source file must be fixed before proofreading".</mark> The guys that started that volume found out that pages are missing. That is shown. It should not be worked on until those pages can be found and inserted from another source.<p> You did not do anything wrong with the asterisk. They are like that when they touch the left margin. We just know to remove it when it is time to use the text that follows that "big dot".<p> Several of us here use Mozilla Firefox. I am using the newest version now 30.0.5<p> I have done that page you are writing about. Look at it now and compare the before and after to see the way the asterisk and cross footnotes are now used and how they appear both under "edit" the page and when page wasn't edited. Once a page is edited you click the yellow circle under the page to indicate the page has been proofread.<p> Register your name or alias as shown at the beginning of wikisource. Then instead of signing you type 4 tildes in a row and save. That automatically saves your name and user page and talk page. The reason for registering is so those internet service providers that you use will not show in the message above. Some people don't worry about it and don't do this which is fine but it is safer to register - especially if you get into an argument (rare here) and someone wants to track you like you encounter using Google search engine and other search engines and websites.<p> I am now going to type those four (4) tildes in a row but what will show is my name and talk page. Please find a different book because of the problem with the one you worked on and asked about. I hope that this reply helps you. ''Happy Holidays !'', [[User:William Maury Morris II|—Maury]] ([[User talk:William Maury Morris II|talk]]) 09:32, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

== Problem with [[MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js]] in Ukrainian Wikisource ==

Hi! We are using [[MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js]] in Ukrainian Wikisource, it works fine, but we've got a problem with one specific page. If you go to [//uk.wikisource.org/w/index.php?oldid=44738 this page] in Chrome, the link to page 58 will be not shown. In Firefox everything is fine. Can anybody help me to find the cause of this issue? --[[User:DixonD|DixonD]] ([[User talk:DixonD|talk]]) 17:02, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
:Works for me in Firefox. I can see the page number. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 06:56, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
::That was sort of the point DixonD was making. I also use Firefox (and the page reference works) which is why I did not feel it worthy of mention before. Now can some kind ''Chrome'' user try/verify/analyse this issue? [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 07:41, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
:::Yes, it works in Firefox and IE. It doesn't work in Chrome and Safari (I guess because they both use WebKit). --[[User:DixonD|DixonD]] ([[User talk:DixonD|talk]]) 11:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
:Fwiw... it works in IE 11's ''F12 Developer Tools'' using Chrome emulation. Granted, that is not the same thing as running Chrome itself but its been fairly consistent with actual Chrome behavior in my experience.<p>Since I can't replicate the problem, I have to ask: are the embedded links for 59 on also not rendering?</p><p>And as an aside; my console is also reporting several instances of <code>Use of "addOnloadHook" is deprecated. Use jQuery instead.</code> ([[mw:ResourceLoader/Legacy JavaScript#addOnloadHook|see here]]) which could be affecting things related to this particular issue. Someone who knows better than I should be able to help straighten that out. -- [[User:George Orwell III|George Orwell III]] ([[User talk:George Orwell III|talk]]) 22:27, 19 December 2014 (UTC)</p>

== [[User:Ignatus/Old Russian birch barks]] ==

I wanted to translate into Wikisource some [[w:Birch_bark_manuscript#East_Slavic_texts|birch barks]] from http://gramoty.ru. What do you think about this idea and the way I'm using for it? [[User:Ignatus|Ignatus]] ([[User talk:Ignatus|talk]]) 15:19, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
:Looks good to me. Maybe have each artefact as a separate subpage, and put the "commentary" in the notes section of the header? —[[User:Beleg Tâl|Beleg Tâl]] ([[User talk:Beleg Tâl|talk]]) 17:39, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

== Update Easton's Bible Dictionary total pages and percentage ==

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Talk:Easton%27s_Bible_Dictionary_%281897%29#Status

I've updated the number of pages on the above, but could someone please update the total and percentage of pages. It has a maths percentage template and I'm not good at maths. --[[User:Kathleen.wright5|kathleen wright5]] ([[User talk:Kathleen.wright5|talk]]) 01:55, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[User:Beeswaxcandle|Beeswaxcandle]] ([[User talk:Beeswaxcandle|talk]]) 02:30, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

== categories link in header broken ==

Something changed recently, so that the {{tl|header}} template no longer seems to link correctly to categories whose name includes an apostrophe.

See [https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_Brown%27s_School_Days_%286th_ed%29&oldid=4952148 this version] where the problem is manifested. I have cludged a workaround for now by moving the category in question out of the header. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|talk]]) 00:32, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

:I think it has more to do with [[Module:String]] -- which is called by the header template to handle the category parameter -- than anything else. I'll have to ask someone over on Wikipedia to take a look so this might take awhile (unless somebody here has the chops to troubleshoot this of course). -- [[User:George Orwell III|George Orwell III]] ([[User talk:George Orwell III|talk]]) 01:24, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

::(e/c)I would hazard it was [[special:diff/4660353/5089696|this edit]] to {{tl|header}} which is most likely responsible. I might further guess that the pattern group <code>[%w%s-]</code> which occurs twice therein should probably be amended to at least <code>[%w'%s-]</code> (i.e. add single quote to match element) as <code>%s</code> does not match any punctuation. Further analysis of allowed characters is probably justified.) [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 01:28, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::: Made that change and it seems to work now. We'll deal other punctuation failures as they present themselves I suppose. Thanks for the fix, AuFCL. -- [[User:George Orwell III|George Orwell III]] ([[User talk:George Orwell III|talk]]) 02:14, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
:::: Here is a short list of existing representative categories (a couple of whom are empty and perhaps ought to be deleted instead?) of cases which still trip up the LUA filters:<ol><li>[[:Category:"Danforth Report" documents]]</li><li>[[:Category:0%]]</li><li>[[:Category:? births]]</li><li>[[:Category:Bangkok Metropolitan Administration Act, BE 2528 (1985)]]</li><li>[[:Category:Beck v. Eiland-Hall]]</li></ol>I make no pretense this list is comprehensive, but bearing in mind the broad variety above may I make a case for replacing the overly-complicated coding (Honestly! One replace to remove the empty entry created in error by the other two?) in {{tl|header}}:<syntaxhighlight lang="html5" enclose="div">
   -->{{#if:{{{categories|}}}
|{{#invoke:String|replace|{{#invoke:String|replace|{{#invoke:String|replace|{{{categories}}}|([%w'%s-]-)%s?/%s?|[[Category:%1]]|plain=false}}|([%w'%s-]-)$|[[Category:%1]]|plain=false}}|%[%[Category:%]%]||plain=false}}
}}<!--
</syntaxhighlight> with the somewhat simpler (though still ugly)<syntaxhighlight lang="html5" enclose="div">
   -->{{#if:{{{categories|}}}
|[[Category:{{#invoke:String|replace|{{{categories}}}|(%s)/(%s)|%1]][[Category:%2|plain=false}}]]}}<!--
</syntaxhighlight>? I appreciate the output of the latter is not stripped of spaces like the original code; the wiki engine really does not seem to care and still finds the correct category (at least in all my experiments to date. Feel free to verify/repudiate, please.) [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 05:42, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

== Partial scan page in edit window ==

I am able to see only part of the scan page at [[Page:Kapalkundala (1919).djvu/31|this page]], but the full page is visible on clicking the image button. [[User:Hrishikes|Hrishikes]] ([[User talk:Hrishikes|talk]]) 04:36, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
:Whilst I am sympathetic, as of right now the scan really does show up correctly for me. Did you perhaps purge the page (or possibly even the very act of your editing the page "fixed" the issue)? Is it still misbehaving for you? [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 05:49, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::The page is now OK. I did not purge or did anything, I did not understand the mechanics. Anyway, now it's OK. [[User:Hrishikes|Hrishikes]] ([[User talk:Hrishikes|talk]]) 06:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
:::Sad to say sometimes these things "just happen" and after the problem goes away there is nothing really logged to indicate what had gone wrong. All I can suggest is, if it happens again try, in turn, each of the page operations "Purge", "Hard purge" and "Null edit" (all available from the tab-menu at the top of the page—may be hidden under the "More" tab.) I do not mean you need to execute all three operations; merely try one and see if the problem goes away and if not move on to the next choice and repeat. These tend to fix most problems, but of course in cases of stubborn failure ask again for assistance as the cause in that case might then still vary from server/database connection problems to system/javascript errors etc. etc. (Unlikely but possible.) [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 10:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::::No, the problem is still persisting in my tablet. Previously I had checked with my mobile, and there the page is OK. But not in the tab. I have tried all your given methods; null edit fails, and purge/hard purge does not give any result in this case. Sorry for bothering, but I am not able to fix it. Does not much matter, I think, as it is OK with other browsers. [[User:Hrishikes|Hrishikes]] ([[User talk:Hrishikes|talk]]) 11:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Hrishikes}} Right at present I have completely run out of useful ideas. However in order to assist anybody else who might be able to solve this issue here are some thoughts as to items it might be good to collect and report (in no particular priority; skip items which make no sense/are impossible):<ul><li>What make and model is the tablet?</li><li>Are there particular pages which ''always'' show the partial scan problem (which ones?) or is it intermittent and/or random (i.e. sometimes works)?</li><li>Do you know which browser it/you are using? Please report its name and version number.</li><li>Does the tablet/browser have any kind of javascript or error console/log, and if so does it contain any messages which might help diagnose the problem?</li><li>Are you using the standard browser referrer/user-agent? (This probably only makes sense if you have taken deliberate steps to change it.)</li><li>Can you think of anything else which makes your tablet/browser "different" from a browser on which the problem never (or rarely) occurs?</li></ul>Pardon the dump of questions and I hope somebody can take up this cause with more success than I. [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 20:16, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
::It's Galaxy Tab3, Chrome 38.0.2125.114. I think it's more to do with the cache from some earlier time, having some network problem at that time. This cache is not going away with purging. This is the only page where this problem is occurring. Please don't bother, it's not very important, this page being the only one. [[User:Hrishikes|Hrishikes]] ([[User talk:Hrishikes|talk]]) 00:29, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

== Apparent "automatic" edits in Page: space—Is there something going wrong with Show changes/Preview? ==

If I open any Page: name space containing pre-existing header or footer content for editing, and immediately select "Show changes" I am presented with a display which implies the "Page status" has been forced to "Not proofread" from whatever it was before; and that both the header and footer areas have been blanked. That is to say the "Difference" display acts as if they are blank, but the actual header and footer edit areas remain intact.

In similar fashion "Preview" always shows the salmon "<span class="quality1">This page needs to be proofread.</span>" band irrespective of the current or intended state of the page.

However insofar as I can tell, both of these displays are "lying," because when actually saved only content actually edited changes.

This "fault" only manifests itself when I am logged in. "Preview" and "Show changes" perform flawlessly when logged out (but of course it is then impossible to change validation states.)

I have tried disabling various preference/gadgets/local scripting to no avail, and am currently quite out of ideas.

Is this perhaps a known issue? I like to be able to check preview before saving changes but can I put any trust into what it is reporting? [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 04:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

:I'm not getting this behavior at my end. It may have to do with your preferences, cache, connection, or some such, but it does not appear at this time to be a general phenomenon. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|talk]]) 04:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

::I am also not getting any such phenomenon. Must be local problem at your end. [[User:Hrishikes|Hrishikes]] ([[User talk:Hrishikes|talk]]) 05:00, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
:::Thanks both for your observations. I remain at a loss. This is more of an annoyance than an outright disability. [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 06:03, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
:::Additional: George Orwell III isolated this. Side-effect of having Preferences/Live Preview selected. Thanks all! [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 06:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)