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== Cleanup of the wiki ==

Per your request I have decided to help a few wikis sort out their local issues. I am going to list the issues I have observed so that you can sort them out yourself. If you desire I'd be happy to assist with them. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

* I noticed you [http://nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=E%CA%BCelyaa%C3%ADg%C3%AD%C3%AD%3AShonto_pics_053.jpg&diff=16750&oldid=9262 relicensed] other peoples edits without their consent. Did the user consent to this? That consent should be linked or user should post a notice on their userpage (or preferably at every upload) expressing this. This does not have to be in English but a bi-lingual notice would be helpful. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**Yes, it's Anthony's, there is no link needed, but I'll try giving im a ping. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* This wiki lacks templates such as {{tl|Delete}} which wikis implement to allow interoperability. While not required this would demonstrate the existence of processes to deal with problem files and articles. The template can redirect to pre-existing processes if one exists. Alternatively the pagecould explain how to nominate files for deleiton. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**That is for a reason. We don't don't do that here. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***I need to know what template to use to nominate files for deletion. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****the reason why this deosn't exist is because there are several drive-by vandals going around, using the template; ever since we abondoned the template, the vandals disppeared. But fine, we can make the redirect, and invite more vandals again. (sigh) [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 00:30, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
*****I do understand the frustration but bear in mind that interoperability is also important. Users that monitor multiple wikis have scripts that quickly tags pages with "delete" so that files are quickly dealt with. It is difficult to deal with so many wikis if there is no interoperable process. You can request steward checkuser on these users which can get their ips blocked so they do not bother the wiki anymore. If it becaomes unbareable it can be deleted again. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 20:23, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
** I marked several files with [[Bee álnééhí:Delete]] for you to review. I think a good number could be relicensed.
***Done. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* Copyright licenses should have a category associated with them. Again this isn't requred but it is a good way to find copyrighted content falsely licensed as free. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**Fair use has cat. That's the only requirement. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***Fair use images should not be displayed in a category gallery. That is the requirement. It is a very good idea to categroize files based on their copyright status. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****I have [http://nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T%CA%BC%C3%A1%C3%A1%C5%82%C3%A1h%C3%A1gi_%C3%A1t%CA%BC%C3%A9ego%3AFair-use_images&diff=126710&oldid=47001 added] the needed tag for you. Feel free to translate the english warning if you like. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:19, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
*****ahéheeʼ/thanks. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 00:30, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
******On the matter of translations, if you like you can translate [[Commons:Template:Assessments]] by copying and translating [[Commons:Template:Assessments/translate/en]] to [[Commons:Template:Assessments/translate/nv]]. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 20:23, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* You may want to consider moving (or at least) copying PD-Old files to commons so that all wikis can use them. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* Considerable number of files are duplicates from commons. These can be deleted as well as commons varians will always be more up to date. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**No, we want them in the appropriate categories. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***You can categorise them locally even if the files themselves are hosted in commons. All you need to do is put the category on the file description page locally. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****I know, We'll see. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 00:30, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* [[:Eʼelyaaígíí:Facebook-nv.svg]] is dubiously licensed. This file cannot be CC-By. It is either PD-Inelligable or Fair-use - either way it is trademarked. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**"facebook" is trademarked. "naaltsoos binííʼ" is not; it's not theirs. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:58, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***So "naaltsoos binííʼ" isn't used on facebook.com? --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:11, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****That's right, it isn't. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 00:30, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
*****Strange, it has the registered trademark symbol too. :/ Even copyrighted it is too simple of a logo to worry too much about copyright so I will leave it at that. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 20:23, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* [[:Eʼelyaaígíí:Wikipedia-nv-2000.png]] is dubiously licensed. Wikipedia logo is copyrighted by the Wikimedia Foundation. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**Done. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* [[:Eʼelyaaígíí:Mariner10 nv.png]] is dubiously licensed. It should probably be PD-NASA or PD-US-gov. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**No. "Derived from" (given in Navajo, the rest is ours. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***Actually, I made a template now. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:53, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****I do not believe there is adequate new creative content to submit that file with a more restrictive (CC-BY-SA) license. I think the derivative is close enough to the original to remain PD. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

During my initial review I noticed you and "Arizona86002" to be the only uploaders (aside from the first four uploads). I also noticed "Stephen G. Brown" to be another active user. Have you ever considered recomending [[User:Arizona86002|Arizona86002]] and/or [[User:Stephen G. Brown|Stephen G. Brown]] for sysop status? This wiki would be out of sysops if you so much as go on a vacation. Sysop access should have a greater redundency than that. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
:Stephen <u>is</u> sysop. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:55, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
::Ah that is good. I do not know why I haven't notice that. I suppose [[User:Arizona86002|Arizona86002]] is uninterested in the sysop flag? But then again this is a local issue that doesn't concern me. As long as there is a level of redundency that is good enough for me. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:11, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

Overal, I am quite impressed with the general upkeep of this wiki. While there are problems, this wiki is far better of than the countles counterparts which can be a complete mess. This wiki can self-govern fine with a little work. I am actually suprised as to why you were so worried at the RfC. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

:Thank you for the compliment; we take pride in doing our best to keep this in good shape. Thus, I was not worried, I was rather offended to be thrown into one bag with the mess I've seen elsewhere. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
::This wiki more than deserves the compliment. :) This wiki was never in the scope of the proposal as it was never a graveyard of copyrighted content from the start. The proposal is mainly concerned with wikis that go out of their way to refuse propoer enforcement of copyright. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

== Nidaʼałkááʼiʼ ==

Is [[Nidaʼałkááʼiʼ]] a good spelling? Is it a different word from [[Naʼalkaahí]]? It looks like it is related to [[naalkaah]], but so many changes. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 20:13, 18 Yaʼiishjááshchilí 2012 (UTC)