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== Chilhaataii ==

Thank you for explaining your reverssement of Chilhaataii, thanks and good day. --[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Archaeodontosaurus|Archaeodontosaurus]] 07:01, 20 Ghąąjįʼ 2011 (UTC)

== Anáʼálwoʼ:Íʼneelʼąąhígíí ==
In [[Anáʼálwoʼ:Íʼneelʼąąhígíí]], it says tsinsitą́ '''diką́''' = 640di náhásdzo hayázhí '''dikʼą́'''. Should it be dikʼą́ or diką́? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 18:16, 24 Ghąąjįʼ 2011 (UTC)
:BING-GO.[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 20:04, 24 Ghąąjįʼ 2011 (UTC)

==WBA==
Is '''Kéyah dízdiin dóó baʼaan tseebíí sinilígíí''' still used for the W.B.A.? Isn’t "48" considered out of date? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 18:38, 24 Ghąąjįʼ 2011 (UTC)
:Of course. But you might find someone who went to school before '59 and doesn't know or care. Like some people say "Ceylon". [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 20:17, 24 Ghąąjįʼ 2011 (UTC)

==Re:==
Hi. I've just seen your comment on my talk page. Sorry, I undid it 'cause I thought that maybe it was a vandalism. Anyway I'm used to thinking two times before a revert, and I was in good faith. Sorry again, --[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Frigotoni|Frigotoni]] 13:49, 4 Níłchʼitsʼósí 2011 (UTC)
:ok [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 14:24, 4 Níłchʼitsʼósí 2011 (UTC)

==łeetsʼaʼ==
Is łeetsʼaʼ okay as is or should it be łeetsʼaaʼ? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 02:45, 18 Níłchʼitsʼósí 2011 (UTC)
:łeetsʼaaʼ > biłeetsʼaʼ (possessive) [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 03:05, 18 Níłchʼitsʼósí 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks. I wonder why it has an effect like that? I can more or less understand the voicing change, but this is two syllables away. Anyway, it’s fascinating. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 04:07, 18 Níłchʼitsʼósí 2011 (UTC)
:::It's similar to yaaʼ > biyaʼ. No idea why though. It's not consistent, either: there's no *biwaʼ. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 04:10, 18 Níłchʼitsʼósí 2011 (UTC)


Yá'át'ééh Késhmish :) I noticed when i type and use the Naabeeho fonts the screen tents to go up on its own. Does yours do that? or is my computer ? not sure...at any rate was gonna write some articles but unable to do so with the screen keeping flickering up to the top of the page.
[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Arizona86002|Arizona86002]] 08:45, 27 Níłchʼitsoh 2011 (UTC)
:Hinináá lá! :P On my computer, it works fine without problems; strange. I'll see if I can find out more about it. 
:Meanwhile, so good to know you're still around, I was getting worried. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 09:01, 27 Níłchʼitsoh 2011 (UTC)

:Do you have Mac or PC? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 10:01, 27 Níłchʼitsoh 2011 (UTC)

* heat emission, yes or ''generates heat'', and i like the graphics. 
* I have HP and using windows 7; its when i use, fonts like: Ą́.É.Ǫ.́ the page flips to the top of the page. mmmm, not sure if its because i am using the latest google search engine ? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Arizona86002|Arizona86002]] 21:54, 27 Níłchʼitsoh 2011 (UTC)

== Babel ==

I have recently noticed that when anyone uses the MediaWiki:Babel/nv, the text in the Babel box comes out in English. More and more people are using this centralized MediaWiki:Babel, some here but many more on the other wikis. I have discovered the place where this text is stored, in case you want to add our local Babel/nv texts to it: '''[http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&task=untranslated&group=ext-babel&language=nv&limit=100 MediaWiki:Babel/nv]'''. It looks like the sort of thing that you have been doing for some time. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 16:40, 4 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)
:those are the people who don't want my contributions, remember? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 16:47, 4 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)
::I imagine that that was just one particular admin. There are those types everywhere. I will inquire about it. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 16:55, 4 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)
:::you go ahead if you want to; I have absolutely no interest in dealing with them again. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 17:11, 4 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)

== Block of Hoo man ==

Please see the reply on the user's talk page. I believe you have mistaken something. :) ‍‍‍‍‍‍[[User:Wikitanvir|Wikitanvir]] 06:14, 9 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)

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Is náhásdzo a noun or a verb? To me it looks like a verb. Also, are ńtʼééʼ and ńtʼę́ę́ʼ two separate words that have a similar meaning ("it was"), or is one a misspelling of the other? For example, mąʼii łą́ągo daacha ńtʼę́ę́ʼ. (Or should that be ńtʼééʼ?) I suppose they’re related to átʼé. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 23:14, 12 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)
:náhásdzo is a verb-form (drawing around an area). ńtʼę́ę́ʼ/ńtʼééʼ/nítʼę́ę́ʼ/nítʼééʼ... all the same thing; it's not derived from anything, it's just a particle. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 04:52, 13 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 11:58, 13 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)

== Wikipedia 1.19 beta ==

Wikimedia Foundation is getting ready to push out 1.19 to all the wikis.  You can test the new version now on [http://beta.wmflabs.org/ beta.wmflabs.org]. For more information, see the [https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES-1.19?view=markup release notes] or the [[mw:MediaWiki_1.19|start of the final announcement]]. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 15:04, 17 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)
:aooʼ, seen it, ahéheeʼ. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 15:39, 17 Yas Niłtʼees 2012 (UTC)

== pronouns ==

Trying to make up a list of independent personal pronouns. I think I know most of the prefixes, but am I right in thinking that not every prefix has an independent form? So far, my list is like this:
:1st    shí   nihí
:2nd    ni   nihí
:3rd    bí
:4th    hó

But besides those, there are prefixes like yikʼi (on him), akʼi (on someone), ákʼi (on self), ałkʼi (on each other). These don’t have independent pronoun forms, right? And there are other prefixes that are used with verbs, but not with postpositions, like ji-. Ji- doesn’t have an independent form or a different form that is used for postpositions, does it?

And are danihí, daabí, and daahó separate personal pronouns? It seems like nihí, bí, and hó also cover the dual and plural. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 20:13, 6 Atsá Biyáázh 2012 (UTC)
:you got it, all of  this is correct. The independent form of ji- is hó/ha. danihí and such is possible, but reserved for smartasses. The other stuff (*yikʼi) cannot exist alone anyways. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 21:15, 6 Atsá Biyáázh 2012 (UTC)

== ZéroBot ==

Hi ! Could you explain me why [http://nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=Choyoołʼįįh%C3%AD%3AZéroBot you've blocked my bot], please ? I'm afraid I don't understand… What's wrong with [https://nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Náátsʼóz%C3%ADdę́ę́ʼ_mós%C3%ADłkizhii_ałchin%C3%ADg%C3%AD%C3%AD&action=historysubmit&diff=119001&oldid=118966] ? Regards, [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Toto Azéro|Toto Azéro]] 13:29, 26 Atsá Biyáázh 2012 (UTC)
:Thank you very much for [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Toto_Azéro&diff=3507399&oldid=3507320 your quick answer] ! As I've said on my meta talkpage, I apologize for that mistake… I have now configured the bot so that he takes into account this order… Could you please unblock my bot ? Regards, [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Toto Azéro|Toto Azéro]] 14:09, 26 Atsá Biyáázh 2012 (UTC)
::sure. :) [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 14:39, 26 Atsá Biyáázh 2012 (UTC)

== Vagobot ==

Hi Seb az86556. You blocked Vagobot for [http://nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=K%C3%A9chwa_din%C3%A9%CA%BCi%CA%BC&action=historysubmit&diff=119113&oldid=115216 this] edit. What is wrong? Best regards, [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Vago|Vago]] 07:00, 27 Atsá Biyáázh 2012 (UTC)
:[[meta:Interwiki sorting order]]. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 07:06, 27 Atsá Biyáázh 2012 (UTC)

== Łizhiní Bikéyahdę́ę́ʼ tsétah dibé ==

Áádóó nááná [[Łizhiní Bikéyahdę́ę́ʼ tsétah dibé]]shąʼ? ([[Naakaii Łizhiní Bikéyahdę́ę́ʼ tsétah dibé]] yaʼ?) [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 06:20, 7 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
*sigh*... aooʼ... :P [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 06:22, 7 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)

== saying ==

There is a saying that is something like "taa ho ajit eego teiya", as someone wrote it. What is it supposed to be? Maybe
"tʼáá hó ájítʼį́įgo tʼéiyá"? I can get the individual words, but not the meaning. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 22:06, 9 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
:ájítʼéego (4th person of áníshtʼé). Extremely well-known, almost impossible to translate. ''just someone(4th) while-being(4th) just-that''. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 22:49, 9 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
::Could it be, "people do what they do"? Otherwise, I don’t get the meaning. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 23:01, 9 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
:::Naw. The direction is ''"just do it, it's up to you, that's all it takes"''... it's confidence-inspiring and supposed to instill... "self-responsibility"? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:27, 9 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
::::Lą́ʼąąʼ, bikʼiʼdiishtįįh. Ahéheeʼ. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 00:12, 10 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)

== Bots ==

Can you explain me why you blocked some bots, including my bot? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Luckas Blade|Luckas Blade]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Luckas Blade|talk]]) 12:07, 20 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
:see note above. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 12:18, 20 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
I've updated the code some days after you contacted me. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Luckas Blade|Luckas Blade]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Luckas Blade|talk]]) 00:47, 22 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
:Good. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 01:19, 22 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)

== word stem ==

In a word like hózhóní, what is the verb stem? I mean, what is -zhǫ́ and what is -í? Apparently -í is not the nominalizer -í, but it also doesn’t look like the verb stem. What could it be? Maybe the stem is -ní? -ní means give, doesn’t it? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 20:13, 20 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
:Stem is indeed ''*-zhǫ́''. And yes, you're technically dealing with a noun, e.g. a verb (hózhǫ́) nominalized with -í. So, ''"nizhóní"'' technically means ''"(that's) a beautiful thing"''. <small>(The phenomenon that has one tripping up then is how that can be made ~adverbial (''nizhónígo''), and yeah... I have no idea why that is)</small> [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:59, 20 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
::So nizhóní was a verb that was nominalized, then became like a verb again. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 00:19, 21 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
:::And about hazhóóʼógo ... the extra -ó seems to change the meaning a little from hazhóʼógo. I guess the extra -ó is just reduplication. Is that a regular mutation to get a different meaning? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 00:42, 21 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)
::::I don't think so. It's similar to saying you really like something and you rrrreaaally like it. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 08:28, 21 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2012 (UTC)

== Navajo and Hopi water rights ==

If you’d like to sign a petition to remove S.2109 from consideration: http://www.change.org/petitions/u-s-senate-remove-s-2109-from-consideration [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 21:19, 7 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)
:did that days ago already. but thanks. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 22:15, 7 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)

== verb? ==

In a sentence like "Díí náhásdzo éí áníłtso", is náhásdzo a noun or a verb? To me it seems like it is a verb, and I don’t see any reason why a verb couldn’t take díí and éí, or why a verb couldn’t be the subject of áníłtso. But maybe I’m mistaken? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 05:16, 12 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)
:You could analyze it either way I guess. When you are "calling" something, that's a verb; when something is your "calling" is that a noun? probably... This is where the obsession with squeezing every language on the planet into pattern of "civilized" Latin sorta fails. As you know, it works even less well for Navajo, and this particular question is a question only white people who impose their worldview onto the language would ask. I can take a smart guess who brought up the question. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 07:14, 12 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)

::Yes, I’ve made this exact argument numerous times on Wiktionary, where they are obsessed with parts of speech (only on English Wiktionary...some other wiktionaries, such as Russian Wiktionary, do not do that, but have generic headers such as '''Semantic properties'''). Anyway, I had indicated that náhásdzo and hahoodzo were verbs, but some other editors look at the English translations and are convinced that it is also a noun. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 07:34, 12 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)

== Deetéél > Deeteel ==

How about [[Deetéél Bikéyah]]? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 05:05, 14 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)
:yeah, of course... [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 05:12, 14 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)

== [[user:Dinamik-bot|Dinamik-bot]] ==

Hello! I am an owner of [[user:Dinamik-bot|Dinamik-bot]]. You [http://nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Seb+az86556&page=user%3ADinamik-bot&year=&month=-1 blocked it]. There is sign "Read [[:meta:Interwiki sorting order]], fix it, then tell me", but I don't understand, what I should do with this page. Could you, please, describe me, what is wrong? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Dinamik|Dinamik]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Dinamik|talk]]) 20:56, 11 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)
:You need to update your bot so it works as described under "Local sorting order." (If you don't know how to do that, you need to ask someone who runs a bot and knows. I don't.) [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 22:19, 11 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)
:: 1) There is no nv-wiki in [[:meta:Interwiki_sorting_order#Wikis_having_a_local_full_order|the list]]; 2) file [[MediaWiki:Interwiki_config-sorting_order]] looks strange: in contains "en es meta-native-languagename" instead of list of wikis (see, for example, [[:sr:MediaWiki:Interwiki_config-sorting_order]]). [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Dinamik|Dinamik]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Dinamik|talk]]) 01:08, 16 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)
:::Yes, because it's not a full list. It works for others, ask them. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 01:17, 16 Tʼą́ą́chil 2012 (UTC)

== béésh bee haneʼé yádaałtiʼ ==

I’m trying to determine the proper word for "fax". I saw "béésh hane yádaałtiʼ" written, but shouldn’t it be "béésh bee haneʼé yádaałtiʼ"? Or is something else missing from this? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 05:28, 2 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
:Beats me, never used a fax-machine. ''béésh bee haneʼ'' is a telegram, I would simply use that for "fax" as well. Neither of the phrases you have sound right; if there's a specific phrase for "fax," it should at least end on ''-í'' or ''-ígíí''. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 15:36, 2 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah, I wondered about why there wasn’t a nominalizer there. I had better not trust that either of those is correct. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 18:41, 2 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

== Cleanup of the wiki ==

Per your request I have decided to help a few wikis sort out their local issues. I am going to list the issues I have observed so that you can sort them out yourself. If you desire I'd be happy to assist with them. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

* I noticed you [http://nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=E%CA%BCelyaa%C3%ADg%C3%AD%C3%AD%3AShonto_pics_053.jpg&diff=16750&oldid=9262 relicensed] other peoples edits without their consent. Did the user consent to this? That consent should be linked or user should post a notice on their userpage (or preferably at every upload) expressing this. This does not have to be in English but a bi-lingual notice would be helpful. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**Yes, it's Anthony's, there is no link needed, but I'll try giving im a ping. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* This wiki lacks templates such as {{tl|Delete}} which wikis implement to allow interoperability. While not required this would demonstrate the existence of processes to deal with problem files and articles. The template can redirect to pre-existing processes if one exists. Alternatively the pagecould explain how to nominate files for deleiton. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**That is for a reason. We don't don't do that here. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***I need to know what template to use to nominate files for deletion. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****the reason why this deosn't exist is because there are several drive-by vandals going around, using the template; ever since we abondoned the template, the vandals disppeared. But fine, we can make the redirect, and invite more vandals again. (sigh) [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 00:30, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
*****I do understand the frustration but bear in mind that interoperability is also important. Users that monitor multiple wikis have scripts that quickly tags pages with "delete" so that files are quickly dealt with. It is difficult to deal with so many wikis if there is no interoperable process. You can request steward checkuser on these users which can get their ips blocked so they do not bother the wiki anymore. If it becaomes unbareable it can be deleted again. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 20:23, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
** I marked several files with [[Bee álnééhí:Delete]] for you to review. I think a good number could be relicensed.
***Done. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* Copyright licenses should have a category associated with them. Again this isn't requred but it is a good way to find copyrighted content falsely licensed as free. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**Fair use has cat. That's the only requirement. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***Fair use images should not be displayed in a category gallery. That is the requirement. It is a very good idea to categroize files based on their copyright status. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****I have [http://nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T%CA%BC%C3%A1%C3%A1%C5%82%C3%A1h%C3%A1gi_%C3%A1t%CA%BC%C3%A9ego%3AFair-use_images&diff=126710&oldid=47001 added] the needed tag for you. Feel free to translate the english warning if you like. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:19, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
*****ahéheeʼ/thanks. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 00:30, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
******On the matter of translations, if you like you can translate [[Commons:Template:Assessments]] by copying and translating [[Commons:Template:Assessments/translate/en]] to [[Commons:Template:Assessments/translate/nv]]. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 20:23, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* You may want to consider moving (or at least) copying PD-Old files to commons so that all wikis can use them. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* Considerable number of files are duplicates from commons. These can be deleted as well as commons varians will always be more up to date. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**No, we want them in the appropriate categories. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***You can categorise them locally even if the files themselves are hosted in commons. All you need to do is put the category on the file description page locally. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****I know, We'll see. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 00:30, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* [[:Eʼelyaaígíí:Facebook-nv.svg]] is dubiously licensed. This file cannot be CC-By. It is either PD-Inelligable or Fair-use - either way it is trademarked. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**"facebook" is trademarked. "naaltsoos binííʼ" is not; it's not theirs. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:58, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***So "naaltsoos binííʼ" isn't used on facebook.com? --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:11, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****That's right, it isn't. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 00:30, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
*****Strange, it has the registered trademark symbol too. :/ Even copyrighted it is too simple of a logo to worry too much about copyright so I will leave it at that. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 20:23, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* [[:Eʼelyaaígíí:Wikipedia-nv-2000.png]] is dubiously licensed. Wikipedia logo is copyrighted by the Wikimedia Foundation. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**Done. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
* [[:Eʼelyaaígíí:Mariner10 nv.png]] is dubiously licensed. It should probably be PD-NASA or PD-US-gov. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
**No. "Derived from" (given in Navajo, the rest is ours. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
***Actually, I made a template now. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:53, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
****I do not believe there is adequate new creative content to submit that file with a more restrictive (CC-BY-SA) license. I think the derivative is close enough to the original to remain PD. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

During my initial review I noticed you and "Arizona86002" to be the only uploaders (aside from the first four uploads). I also noticed "Stephen G. Brown" to be another active user. Have you ever considered recomending [[User:Arizona86002|Arizona86002]] and/or [[User:Stephen G. Brown|Stephen G. Brown]] for sysop status? This wiki would be out of sysops if you so much as go on a vacation. Sysop access should have a greater redundency than that. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
:Stephen <u>is</u> sysop. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:55, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
::Ah that is good. I do not know why I haven't notice that. I suppose [[User:Arizona86002|Arizona86002]] is uninterested in the sysop flag? But then again this is a local issue that doesn't concern me. As long as there is a level of redundency that is good enough for me. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:11, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

Overal, I am quite impressed with the general upkeep of this wiki. While there are problems, this wiki is far better of than the countles counterparts which can be a complete mess. This wiki can self-govern fine with a little work. I am actually suprised as to why you were so worried at the RfC. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 23:19, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

:Thank you for the compliment; we take pride in doing our best to keep this in good shape. Thus, I was not worried, I was rather offended to be thrown into one bag with the mess I've seen elsewhere. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:42, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)
::This wiki more than deserves the compliment. :) This wiki was never in the scope of the proposal as it was never a graveyard of copyrighted content from the start. The proposal is mainly concerned with wikis that go out of their way to refuse propoer enforcement of copyright. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫|ちぃ？]]</sup> 00:06, 14 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2012 (UTC)

== Nidaʼałkááʼiʼ ==

Is [[Nidaʼałkááʼiʼ]] a good spelling? Is it a different word from Naʼalkaahí? It looks like it is related to [[naalkaah]], but so many changes. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 20:13, 18 Yaʼiishjááshchilí 2012 (UTC)
:The person is naʼałkaahi. I was gonna tackle that starting next month; it's a lot. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 07:19, 19 Yaʼiishjááshchilí 2012 (UTC)

::Okay, thanks. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 09:00, 19 Yaʼiishjááshchilí 2012 (UTC)


== béésh łichíiʼii ==

[[béésh łichíiʼii]] = copper, but I have also seen [[béésh łichíʼii]] for bronze. Are these really two different words, or just two different spellings of the same word? At first I assumed they were the same word, but now I wonder if there might a real difference. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 04:49, 10 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:same thing. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 05:32, 10 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::Ahéheeʼ. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 05:37, 10 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)

== About [[user:Crochet.david.bot]] ==

Hi. Why block my bot ? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Crochet.david|Crochet.david]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Crochet.david|talk]]) 06:01, 13 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:Operating bots without contact-page is against policy. You were notified on July 1 last year; no response. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 07:06, 13 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::Where is the notification ? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Crochet.david|Crochet.david]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Crochet.david|talk]]) 07:17, 13 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::Was on talkpage for a year; talkpage deleted to avoid categorization. It isn't very encouraging when someone operates a bot and doesn't repsond to concerns in over a year. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 07:19, 13 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)

== About [[user:Matanyabot]] ==
Hi. Why block my bot ? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Matanya|Matanya]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Matanya|talk]]) 07:01, 13 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:Operating bots without contact-page is against policy. You were notified on July 17 last year; no response. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 07:05, 13 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)

== [[User:FiriBot]] ==

Hello. Why did you blocked my bot '''without''' notifying me? Am I supposed to know your language and be able to find the place to request flag? This was a rude action.

Btw, it's not recommended to semi-protect a talk page. An administrator should be able to receive messages from anonymous contributors. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Firilacroco|Firilacroco]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Firilacroco|talk]]) 17:59, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, now I see. I have only two edits in two years. What was your problem with my bot then? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Firilacroco|Firilacroco]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Firilacroco|talk]]) 18:01, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::your bot was notified 2 years ago. no response. you cannot be notified when no-one knows it's ''your'' bot, and that's exactly the point. you are required to have a valid contact-page. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 18:31, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::I must contradict you. When I had to notify an user about the requirement of a bot flag, I searched bot's username on en.wikipedia. (It's not that hard). You cannot expect an answer on ''this'' wiki (and it's not an important one with only 2000 articles). I don't check 710 project where I have active accounts; I must be crazy to do so.
:::Secondly, I cannot find a reasonable basis for '''blocking an account with 2 contributions'''. Maybe you can explain yourself. What exactly was the problem? You can't require a bot with almost no contribution on this wiki to have a contact page.
:::By this message, I firmly ask you to unblock the robot abusively blocked in my opinion, otherwise I will fill in a complain on Meta. Thank you. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Firilacroco|Firilacroco]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Firilacroco|talk]]) 20:27, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::::Read the bot-policy. It's on meta. You '''must''' have a contact page. If  you don't like that, then yes, go to meta and start a discussion about changing that policy. (and by the way, I wouldn't go around saying that other people's work or language is "not an important one") [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 20:40, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)

== Blocking bots and other stuffs ==

Hi Seb, please can you give me your point of view about [//nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Choyoołʼįįhí:Jasper_Deng&action=history this issue] and can I ask why you're blocking bots with no edits at all ([//nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Cellistbot&namespace=&year=&month=-1 i.e.])? Thank you! --[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:13, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:Sure. 1) we routinely fix the babel-boxes to have them show up correctly 2) bots are required to a) have contact pages, and b) respond to messages. The blocked bots did not respond in over a year, I must assume they are not monitored for this wiki or their operators do not care. Cheers! [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 20:15, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::I see, and so, what if I'll create my userpage using the same style of #babel without using the template?
::Dealing with bots is pointless to block bots which are not active at all on this project, actually I do not even know if you use to look for sul-created accounts containing "bot" in order to block them?!
::--[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:45, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::I don't know about that template; in fact, it's the first time I changed it back, usually Stephen does that (that's why I'm surprised I get picked on, Stephen did that so many times and no-one ever complained; I can't quite remember running into Frigotoni before, maybe he's got something else against me, not sure)
:::yes, it's SUL created bot-accounts that are notified to please provide the user's name. I waited over a year for a response, I don't think that's unresonable. What do you suggest? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 20:49, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::::If someone did it already it was a mistake, setting apart that babel template is now generally deprecated in favour of the new babel extension you started an edit-war without even knowing what were you doing? o.O Putting it midly you're forcing user to use a certain layout on their userpages, so I think I won't be able to write "I speak IT, EN, FR and SCN" on my own userpage but I *must* use {{tl|babel}} instead! Honestly, taking a look at [//nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Choyoołʼįįhí:Vituzzu&action=history this] too I think there are dozens of better ways to improve nv.wiki rather than an oppressive and useless "user management".
::::Dealing with bots, can you point me the policy which prevents account containing the word "bot" in their usernames to be registered on this wiki? I'd like to see, also, where it comply with global bot policy which that wiki accepts.
::::Honestly Seb az I really appreciated your thoughts on many discussions but here, to me, you're damnly wrong.--[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Vituzzu|talk]]) 20:59, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::::Excuse me, could you tone it down as well? I don't think I'm unreasonable, but you're insulting me right now with your word-choice. Is that a cultural difference to go so hot-headed right away? edit war (one revert)? "Oppresive"? "damn" wrong?
:::::So what is your suggestion? that was an honest question, not rhetoric, you still don't have an answer. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 21:05, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::::So, yeah, apparently regular users are allowed to name themselves "bot". That's weird, but I haven't found anything to the contrary. I suggest I'll unblock those "users" (?) without edits. The others, however, must have a contact page, that is indeed in the global bot-policy. If you're not sure that's a good policy, then maybe (as I suggested to the user above) ''you'' can start a discussion about that on meta. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 21:17, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::::Alright. Done. Now -- should the global bot policy be changed? If you think so, go to meta, I'll be interested in the discussion. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 21:30, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::::::Simply it's pointless to block (supposed) *inactive* bots, for example I have [[User:Irclogbot]] which is never supposed to edit (it's a read-only bot), why should I create an userpage for it on that wiki? --[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Vituzzu|talk]]) 22:26, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I take it this is resolved then. Again, if there's going to be discussion about the bot-olicy on meta, I'd be interested in that. Thanks. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 23:11, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Good for me, I've also dropped a line to Stephan, I think you just need a hand to manage the #babel extension (though I cannot do it at all there are many guys which can help us). Dealing with bots I agree with your final statement, you should block only bots with edits while other ones will hardly edit. Sorry if I was a bit too harsh but, honestly, the "comment-hiding" you made made me a bit upset. See you! --[[Choyoołʼįįhí:Vituzzu|Vituzzu]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Vituzzu|talk]]) 23:51, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)

== Message by Frigotoni ==
::Sorry, how is an IP able to contact you, if wants? Your talk page has not suffered any vandalisms recently. ''we routinely fix the babel-boxes'': it seems it's that you here the only active admin. Does the "community" approve it? --[[User:Frigotoni|<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; color:black" >'''Frigotoni'''</span>]][[:meta:User_talk:Frigotoni|<small> ...<span style="font-family:Segoe Script; color:navy" >'''i'm here'''</span></small>]]; 20:21, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::Stephen usually does that, he's an admin, too. Maybe you should check the facts before you make statements; are you the community?  [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 20:23, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::::<small>Really? I've said you're the only one ''active''. Stephen seems isn't active</small>--[[User:Frigotoni|<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; color:black" >'''Frigotoni'''</span>]][[:meta:User_talk:Frigotoni|<small> ...<span style="font-family:Segoe Script; color:navy" >'''i'm here'''</span></small>]]; 20:29, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
::::Nope. And concerning [//nv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Choyoo%C5%82%CA%BC%C4%AF%C4%AFh%C3%AD:Jasper_Deng&curid=14071&diff=133753&oldid=133693 this]? Are you allowed to remove other user's (positive) comment? Was my comment wrong? Neither inappropriate (I said what I thought) nor a kind of vandalism. Tell me, is that possible that on over 500 projects, just on nv.wikipedia an admin (and the only one active there) has to change someone else user page? What should Jasper think? --[[User:Frigotoni|<span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC; color:black" >'''Frigotoni'''</span>]][[:meta:User_talk:Frigotoni|<small> ...<span style="font-family:Segoe Script; color:navy" >'''i'm here'''</span></small>]]; 20:27, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)
:::::Stephen was here less than 24 chours ago, check your facts. I am sure Jasper would approve. Your edit summary was in English. Other than that, I am not having this aggressive discussion with you. Change your tone or any further posts will be reverted. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 20:30, 17 Yaʼiishjáástsoh 2012 (UTC)