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== áhátʼíinii ==

One time you mentioned that you couldn’t get into the actual structure of Navajo before you worked through "the only verb-based book on the market". Which book were you referring to? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 05:57, 17 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2013 (UTC)
:Hm. Forgot the context. The big "Analytical Lexicon" comes to mind. I only aquired that recently, so maybe that's the one I meant. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 12:11, 17 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2013 (UTC)
::I’m envious, I’d love to have that book. Someday. I should have asked you at the time, but I thought it would be obvious...but it wasn’t. Then I thought it might have been the ''Navajo Verb System'' (an overview), but that book is so dense and tightly packed with complex data that I could not imagine how anyone could "work through it". Young and Morgan were a pair of geniuses. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 16:07, 17 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2013 (UTC)

== saad bee bééhózinígíí ==

I wonder if we could put [[en:wikt:Wiktionary:Scribunto|Lua programming language]] to good use here. I don’t know much about it, but I’ve seen some of it in action. For example, on Wiktionary we use [[en:wikt:Module:nl-common]] to make Dutch entries sort properly for Dutch. It looks to me like it would be simple to use a module like that for Navajo sorting. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 05:56, 21 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2013 (UTC)
:That's a good idea, I'll have a look, thanks. I suspect that it works for the order, but not for creating new letters such as tłʼ. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 12:30, 21 Wóózhchʼį́į́d 2013 (UTC)

== ádaadinígíí ==

Maybe we should have a procedure for removing long-term inactive administrators...so that Meta-Wiki would not take that right for themselves. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 10:05, 24 Tʼą́ą́chil 2013 (UTC)
:I thought about that, too; personally, I'd go with one year, no edits. Nishąʼ? [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 15:45, 24 Tʼą́ą́chil 2013 (UTC)
::Lą́ʼąąʼ, éí shił yáʼátʼééh. Lą́, shił tʼáá ákó, bee hooʼaʼ. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 17:50, 24 Tʼą́ą́chil 2013 (UTC)

== Daʼahílkʼéíígíí ==

I think it would be a great idea if we could have a page that showed the extended family terms. A lot of people are forgetting these, and I don’t know of a source where they can find out about it. Yellowhair has that page that shows immediate family from the viewpoint of a woman. I know it would be very complicated and I have no idea how it could be designed, but I think it would be immensely interesting. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 09:26, 25 Tʼą́ą́chil 2013 (UTC)
:That's out of scope, you're thinking in dictionary-terms. I'm busy with other stuff right now, but I'll eventually get you one for wiktionary. But the notion that people are forgetting these is a fantasy; nobody's fortgetting these, even if it's the last thing they'll maintain. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 19:03, 25 Tʼą́ą́chil 2013 (UTC)
::I would be glad to put something like that in a wiktionary appendix (wiktionary uses appendices for some complex data such as that), but the wiktionary articles can only accommodate kinship terms individually (one page for father, another for mother, and so on). Traditionally, [[:en:Family|Family]] is treated as an encyclopedic subject, since it is much more than just a single word. English Wikipedia, for example, includes a couple of interesting charts (family tree, relationship chart) at [[:en:Family]].
::On Wiktionary, I do want to have a page for each term, such as [[:wiktionary:en:análí|análí]], but it still does not give you any sense of the whole system. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 17:59, 26 Tʼą́ą́chil 2013 (UTC)

== Unblock request for [[user:xqbot|xqbot]] ==

I am asking for unblocking my bot to conintue solving double redirects. My interwiki script was deactivated weeks ago. Thanks. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Xqt|Xqt]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Xqt|talk]]) 05:00, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2013 (UTC)
:use summary "dah astsihígíí łahgo áyiilaa: $1 > $2" [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556]] <sup>[[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Seb az86556|> haneʼ]]</sup> 05:15, 13 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2013 (UTC)
::Comes with next i18n update. btw translations could be made at http://translatewiki.net. Thanks and regards [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Xqt|Xqt]] ([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Xqt|talk]]) 03:54, 16 Tʼą́ą́tsoh 2013 (UTC)

== Lua ==

We used Lua language in [[:en:wikt:Module:languages]] to fix sorting. The part that pertains to Navajo is:

:m["nv"] = {
:    names = {"Navajo"},
:    type = "regular",
:    scripts = {"nv-Latn"},
:    family = "apa",
:    sort_key = {
:        from = {"[áą]", "[éę]", "[íį]", "[óǫ]", "ń", "^n([djlt])", "ł" , "[ʼ’']", ACUTE},
:        to   = {"a"   , "e"   , "i"   , "o"   , "n", "ni%1"      , "l"}} }  -- The copyright sign is used to guarantee that ł will always be sorted after all other words with l

I don’t know if it is something that we could implement here or not. We call the Navajo alphabet nv-Latn (as opposed to just Latn) so that we can specify Navajo fonts. (Here I suppose we don’t differentiate between English and Navajo, but use the same fonts for everything ... so I’m not sure if the scripts would just be "Latn" or maybe not used at all?). The family "apa" means Apachean languages ... again, I don’t know if we would even need that line, since we don’t need to differentiate languages.

The "from" line tells what to search for, and the "to" line is what it is made equivalent to. Therefore, á or ą are equivalent to "a", ń = "n"; and then nd-/nj-/nl-/nt- at the beginning of a word = nid-/nij-/nil-/nit- at the beginning of a word; then ł is equivalent to l (so that it sorts after "l" and not after "z"); and ʼ (glottal stop) and ACUTE (combining acute accent) are equivalent to nil so that they do not affect sorting. I haven’t tested it out yet, so I’m not sure that I am happy making the glottal stop equivalent to nothing. I may need to change that after I see how it works.

Note: I barely understand anything about lua, and this is the best that I can describe it. If you have studied lua language, I’m sure you can make more sense of it all. [[Choyoołʼįįhí:Stephen G. Brown|—Stephen]] <sup>([[Choyoołʼįįhí bichʼįʼ yáshtiʼ:Stephen G. Brown|> haneʼ]])</sup> 12:10, 6 Biniʼantʼą́ą́tsʼózí 2013 (UTC)