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User:24.150.61.63
Welcome to Wikipedia! May I call you "24" for short? [[Ed Poor]]
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Some stuff by 24.150.61.63 which still needs checking (I'm reluctant to just delete everything, although (s)he's adding stuff so fast there may be no alternative):  [list way out of date, deleted, click 'user's contributions']
(contracted; show full)g" activists or advocates, researchers or whistle blowers.  Do a google.com search on "Greenpeace XXX" where XXX is "etiquette", "anonymous", "anonym", "noms", "freedom and dignity", "bodily harm", "body value", etc.  I don't think anyone that hasn't browsed over there really understands the issues involved in organizing controversial activities online.  And in many places, knowledge is itself very controversial.

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24,

Let me try to explain to you about logging in.  It does not provide you with LESS anonymity, but MORE.  You can still call yourself '24'.  The primary advantage of logging in is that it would provide you with increased anonymity,as your ip number would be fully masked.  A secondary advantage is that you make it easier for the people you are trying to persuade... easier to find your comments.

Your 'groupthink' objection to logging in makes no sense to me.  Will the act of logging in somehow compromise your individuality?  When you log in, will you automatically start to see things my way?  I don't think so.  Logging in is simple
and a very tiny technical matter -- your refusal to log in serves no purpose except to increase people's perception of you as being an immature crank who can safely be ignored.

If you wish to have positive influence, you must consider the context of the people you are trying to influence.  Some will be hostile to you no mattter what.  Others, perhaps, will agree with you no matter what.  But there's a large group in the middle, who are sincerely waiting to hear what you have to say, and who are willing to follow your arguments over several days or weeks in order to understand.  But it is precisely this group who you alienate by refusing to log in.

[[user:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]]
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