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And so on. I'll edit this as ideas pop up.

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Reasoning==

TherePossible objections==

*Doesn't this create a [[caste system]] of sorts?

:Yes, but there is already some advantagesvestige of that in the titles of sysop, bureaucrat, etc. In my opinion, one's rating should be  hind this system:

*Votes no longer have to be held on [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship|Requests for adminship]], [[Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship|Requests for de-adminship]], and the blocking of certain users (note that [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment|Requests for comment]] is not included in this list), as they are already made by the community's ratings.
*Bureaucrats are not needed because sysops will be made by the consensus of contributors.
*More respected users are naturally given more weight, ensuring that one cannot simply create a bunch of [[sock puppet]]s to inflate their rating unfairly.dden from other users and only visible to themselves.

*Doesn't this distract the attention from editors away from contributing to articles, turning essentially all of them into [[bureaucrats]]?

:There'll probably be people who dwell on points, like there are people who frequently roam [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship|Requests for adminship]]. I don't intend for this to be something people will focus on, rather something like [[WikiMoney]] where you'll only bother about it if 1) you know what it is and 2) you have a compelling reason for giving it. <small>[ [[User:Alerante|alerante]] | [[User_talk:Alerante|&#x201c;&#x201d;]] 20:36, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC) ]</small>

*Doesn't this turn Wikipedia into a giant flamewar where people will fight over points and punish people with different opinions by penalising them?

:Wikipedia's premise, in my opinion, could turn into a giant flamewar as well. Edit wars, revert wars, etc. are common. Someone who wants points will attempt to make genuine contributions to articles, just as one who wishes to have recognition or the currently-existing higher statuses (sysop, etc.) will do now. People who only want power for themselves will, in general, be ignored, and if they begin to become bothersome and repeatedly spam in an attempt to receive a higher rank, they will get a block, or at least quite a bit of resentment.

:What drives flamewars and other such conflicts are not differing opinions, but one's refusal to accept them. Simply having differing opinions doesn't instantly cause a flamewar &mdash; everyone on Wikipedia has a point of view on something, and we aim for NPOV on every article to satisfy all. One who is intolerant of a POV different from his or her own is generally drowned out by those who see it as valid. The problem may be (and I do see this) that it will generally be those harboring bad feelings that will make use of this feature. Therefore, a possible suggestion may be to only allow a level of [[Wikipedia:Bureaucrats|Bureaucrats]] to give points. <small>[ [[User:Alerante|alerante]] | [[User_talk:Alerante|&#x201c;&#x201d;]] 20:36, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC) ]</small>

==Possible objections==

*Doesn't this create a [[caste system]] of sorts?

:Yes, but there is already some vestige of that in the titles of sysop, bureaucrat, etc. In my opinion, one's rating should be hidden from other users and only visible to themselves.

*Doesn't this distract the attention from editors away from contributing to articles, turning essentially all of them into [[bureaucrats]]?

*Doesn't this turn Wikipedia into a giant flamewar where people will fight over points and punish people with different opinions by penalising them?

==Miscellanea==

I've held off on allowing [[Wikipedia:Developer|Developer]] privileges to be granted by this. The people who run the server should be able to protect its integrity.

<small>[ [[User:Alerante|alerante]] | [[User_talk:Alerante|&#x201c;&#x201d;]] 23:11, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC) ]</small>