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== [[Index:1930 QLD Royal Commission into Racing Report.djvu]] ==

This is a mess , with 2 different styles of sidenotes used.

Can someone set ONE style consistently across this, and leave a note on the talk page? [[User:ShakespeareFan00|ShakespeareFan00]] ([[User talk:ShakespeareFan00|talk]]) 23:23, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

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:Thanks for your message. You just beat me replying here; so I am guessing you already know the rest. [[User:AuFCL|AuFCL]] ([[User talk:AuFCL|talk]]) 12:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks once again. I'll keep this as a guideline for future projects if needed. [[User:Hrishikes|Hrishikes]] ([[User talk:Hrishikes|talk]]) 12:31, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
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== Suggestions are sought on how to organize the subpage levels ==

[[Page:Mexico in 1827 Vol 1.djvu/23|In this book in the main namespace]] I would like to omit the "Section" as a subpage because each section contains only one chapter. [[Mexico in 1827 Vol 1/Book I/Boundaries, Geological Structure, Climate]]. But I am not sure. Can anyone suggest an acceptable alternative please? — [[User talk:Ineuw|Ineuw talk]] 04:29, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
:I would ditch the volume level in the Mainspace. The Book numbers are continuous between the two volumes. So, [[Mexico in 1827/Book 1/Section 1]]. There's no need to include the "boundaries, ..." wording in the page title. This makes inter-work links easier to manage. [[User:Beeswaxcandle|Beeswaxcandle]] ([[User talk:Beeswaxcandle|talk]]) 06:02, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
::I would go further and ditch the books, and volumes, and just do a straight chapter numbering (and later create redirects). I did something similar at [[My Life in Two Hemispheres]], though replicated the book/chapters in the sections. My reasoning is not to be a slave to a form of the presentation, and in our WS world, the extra subpage levels are a nuisance as they basically became nude levels, the relative linking is a nuisance, especially when we can concatenate the respective ToC onto the lead page. Don't be a slave to a bookbinder! — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 06:35, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
:::Thank you both. Much enlightened. — [[User talk:Ineuw|Ineuw talk]] 14:42, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

== copyright tag not on list - texas court documents ==

I'm trying to upload the court file from when Howard Hughes, Jr. had his disabilities of minority removed at age nineteen.  There is no selector to say "This is a work of the State of Texas" like there is for federal government works.  Anyway, the Court case is public record and I want to upload it.

:I'm not a lawyer or anything, but just Googling around it it looks like things are fairly complicated copyright-wise for Texas government stuff.  As far as I can tell there are laws that mandate citizens have to be granted ''access'' to  see records for themselves, but that's not the same thing as waiving copyright or having the right to redistribute copies of records. This [https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/ag_publications/pdfs/publicinfo_hb.pdf public information act guide] from the state Attorney General mentions in a footnote

::''Open Records Decision No. 660 at 5 (1999) (Federal Copyright Act “may not be used to deny access to or copies of the information sought by the requestor under the Public Information Act,” but a governmental body may place reasonable restrictions on use of copyrighted information consistent with rights of copyright owner).''

:and also specifically requires that

::''provision of a copy of the information in the requested medium will not violate the terms of any copyright agreement between the governmental body and a third party.''

:so for example [http://www.scotxblog.com/news-and-links/who-owns-your-appellate-briefs/ here's] a lawyer complaining that he has to pay a publisher to access copies of court documents he himself wrote and filed.

:If I understand it all correctly, I think this unfortunately means that you'll need to determine which government body owns the copyright to the documents you've got and find out whether that particular body allows them to be freely redistributed in a way that qualifies as copyrighted, but "free" as defined by [[Wikisource:Copyright_policy]]. --[[User:Struthious_Bandersnatch|❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩]] 22:15, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

::Or alternatively, if these are documents that would count as having been "published" under the legal definition between 1923 and 1977 without any copyright notice, you could mark them as {{tl|PD-US-no-notice}}.  Maybe someone else knows whether court documents count as having been "published"? [[User:Struthious_Bandersnatch|❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩]] 22:27, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
:::Copyright is the "right to make a copy", which should not be confused with access to documents, information, etc. or should not be deemed to be giving anyone a right to reproduce. Publishers have been publishing court proceedings for years, and still there has been some discussion recently [https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090726/1536245664.shtml]. That said, something used in evidence in a court case would not lose its original copyright for appearing as evidence. Is it published? Interesting question., though I would say not. No ISBN, not sold, no copy given to the national library.<p>For the work that you are looking to upload, I would suggest that if it is uploaded that the decision of the court sounds like we would licence as {{tl|PD-EdictGov}} as the court is making a decision on behalf of the State, and thus acting for government. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 11:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)